# Villains who reallllly needed killin'

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 16, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621 "2006-10-16T13:12:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/1 "2006-10-16T13:12:57Z")

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Sometimes a villain is a tortured, angst-ridden misguided soul for whom we feel sorry.

Other times, he’s just a wank ass who made you cheer when he bought the farm.

I was watching “Sling Blade” this weekend and I remembered I always thought Dwight Yoakam’s character Doyal got exactly what was a’comin’ to him.

Your favorites?

VCNJ~

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/2 "2006-10-16T13:40:23Z")

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**Breakdown.** Awesome ending.

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**Author:** ![ColonelDax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@ColonelDax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColonelDax)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/3 "2006-10-16T13:42:00Z")

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Jack Palance’s character in _Shane_.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/4 "2006-10-16T13:43:21Z")

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**Braveheart.**  
The sheriff who kill Wallace’s wife by slitting her throat.

He deserved to

1. Have all his men killed in front of him.
2. Be scared shitless.
3. Be humiliated by being kicked down a hill.
4. Have his own throat cut.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/5 "2006-10-16T13:47:13Z")

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Canino from [The Big Sleep](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038355/) who Bogie shoots four times in the stomach.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/6 "2006-10-16T14:07:10Z")

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Okay, we can do books, right?

Spoiler for book 3 of _A Song of Fire and Ice_ (Ice and Fire? Fuck. My brain isn’t working.)

Joffrey fucking Lannister. THANK YOU, GRRM. Finally. My friend and sometimes cheer each other up by reminding ourselves that at least Joffrey Lannister is dead. I wasn’t too upset when his grandpa bit it, either.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/7 "2006-10-16T14:11:30Z")

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Percy in The Green Mile. Not one redeeming thing about that little sonofabitch. Nothing makes me want to break out the cannon of whoop ass like someone who harms an animal (to say nothing of how he botched Delacroix’s execution).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/8 "2006-10-16T14:26:28Z")

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[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB]  
Percy in The Green Mile. Not one redeeming thing about that little sonofabitch. Nothing makes me want to break out the cannon of whoop ass like someone who harms an animal (to say nothing of how he botched Delacroix’s execution).  
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Wild Bill Wharton from the same novel. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/9 "2006-10-16T14:34:32Z")

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Emperor Palpatine. He and he alone is responsible for us having to sit through Episodes 1-3. If he’s stayed to the straight and narrow, none of that cinematic dreck would have been necessary. Therefore it was fitting that he die like a dog.

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**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/10 "2006-10-16T14:52:02Z")

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Tim Roth’s character in _Rob Roy_, and Gary Oldman’s in _Leon - The Professional_ are the most loathsome villains I can think of. Well, that and the main guy from _The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover._ I find that movie to be pretty loathsome all around, though.

Magua in _The Last of the Mohicans_ is good one too.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/11 "2006-10-16T15:32:16Z")

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Nasty Ned Pepper in _True Grit_. Served him right for killing Mattie’s Pa back in Yell County.

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**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/12 "2006-10-16T15:36:28Z")

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John Herod (played by Gene Hackman) from _The Quick and the Dead_. What an absolute _bastard_ he was!

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/13 "2006-10-16T16:00:21Z")

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Warden Norton from _The Shawshank Redemption_.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/14 "2006-10-16T16:02:29Z")

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Paul Reiser’s character (forget his name) in _Aliens_. If ever any soulless corporate scum deserved to be Alien Chow, it was him.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/15 "2006-10-16T16:05:14Z")

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Hey, how about a two-fer? Clarence Boddicker and Dick Brown from _Robocop_.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/16 "2006-10-16T16:10:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Kyla]  
Okay, we can do books, right?

Spoiler for book 3 of _A Song of Fire and Ice_ (Ice and Fire? Fuck. My brain isn’t working.)

Joffrey fucking Lannister. THANK YOU, GRRM. Finally. My friend and sometimes cheer each other up by reminding ourselves that at least Joffrey Lannister is dead. I wasn’t too upset when his grandpa bit it, either.

[/QUOTE]

Not to mention-

Gregor _MOTHER_fucking Clegane. The Mountain that Rides had absolutely no redeeming qualities - a perfect psychopath, without the subtlety and charm. It’s a shame he took the Red Viper with him, but man, what a horrible, well deserved death.

(BTW - Ice and Fire)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/17 "2006-10-16T16:36:11Z")

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Incidentally,

At the time, I was as happy as you were when Tywin took his lask trip to the bathroom. But Martin has a way of messing with you. After watching his various family and relatives reminiscing over his live throughout Book 4, I actually started to regret his death. Sure, he was an unforgiving man, completely without empathy, mercy and kindness, but he also possessed considerable abilities, was never _needlessly_ cruel, and he sincerely believed that he was doing what was best for his family and for his country - in that order. Plus, his death put Cersei in charge, which was not, shall we say, an optimal situation.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/18 "2006-10-16T16:55:51Z")

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The Drill Instructer in Full Metal Jacket.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/19 "2006-10-16T17:11:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Stuffy]  
The Drill Instructer in Full Metal Jacket.  
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I’m not even sure he was technically a villian.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villains-who-reallllly-needed-killin/376621/20 "2006-10-16T17:16:05Z")

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Oh, come on! He was a big meanie to the recruits! That’s gotta count for somethin’!

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