# Vince Lombardi Recommendations, Please **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 10, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323 "2010-09-10T18:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/1 "2010-09-10T18:54:49Z")
Having just returned from the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame, I’m curious to learn more about Vince Lombardi. He seems to be the most quotable person for motivation and has a common sense approach that I like. There are about a bajillion books out there and I’d like to narrow the field. Any suggestions to learn more about Lombardi, the man and/or Lombardi, the speaker? ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/2 "2010-09-10T19:05:20Z")
I understand that \*When Pride Still Mattered \*is a good book for fans. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/3 "2010-09-10T19:06:21Z")
I think this will get more responses in The Game Room, so I’ve moved it there. ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/4 "2010-09-10T19:56:47Z")
Thanks, Marley. YOU killed MICKEY? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/5 "2010-09-10T20:46:50Z")
Jerry Kramer’s book _Instant Replay_ gives a player’s-eye view of Lombardi. Also, be sure to have tissues near when you get to the end of Maraniss’ book (mentioned by StusBlues). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/6 "2010-09-10T20:46:55Z")
> [@Ruby](#): > > YOU killed MICKEY? :mad: Yes, and I’d do it again. [I asked him to give me some water from the well one time and it was a total fucking disaster.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Rfriax4DY) ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/7 "2010-09-10T22:03:31Z")
StusBlues is right “When Pride still mattered” Of course it’s easy for a football coach to become famous for his quotes on motivation and common sense approach to life when he had 10 players good enough to make the Hall of Fame (plus Jerry Kramer who could have: he was named to the all-NFL team at its 50th anniversary in 1970 but for some reason never made it to Canton). I’m not knocking Lombardi too much although he was hypocritical in denouncing Jim Taylor for going to Atlanta to make more money and turn around to take the Redskins job because he could get a piece of the ownership that was impossible in Green Bay. But people tend to give NFL coaches too much of the credit. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/8 "2010-09-14T04:41:04Z")
I’ve lived in Packer Country all my life, and grew up watching the Pack back in the Lombardi years. And never realized that Ol’ Vince LEFT Green Bay and took another job. NO ONE here EVER talks about it! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/9 "2010-09-14T04:50:29Z")
I concur with both _When Pride Still Mattered_ and _Instant Replay_. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/10 "2010-09-14T10:52:56Z")
Just came in to say\* Instant Replay\* ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/11 "2010-09-14T14:57:47Z")
One of the most interesting things I learned from Maraniss was that Lombardi did NOT “treat everyone the same- like dirt.” To be sure, Lombardi could and did yell and scream and rant and rave with SOME players- specifically, the ones he thought needed a fire lit under them. Lombardi thought that the young Paul Hornung, for instance, would only give his best effort if he was constantly pushed. On the other hand, Lombardi rarely yelled or cursed at Bart Starr, who was much more sensitive. With Starr, Lombardi was quick to offer encouragement and a pat on the back. Lombardi was a very different coach with different types of players. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/12 "2010-09-14T15:04:26Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > I understand that \*When Pride Still Mattered \*is a good book for fans. I own a copy of this book. Its excellent and I’m not a Packer fan (other than of their ownership structure). ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vince-lombardi-recommendations-please/553323/13 "2010-09-15T02:28:20Z")
Thank you all for your input. I’m anxious to read them…box of tissues close at hand.