# Vindication for 9/11 Truthers! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 23, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328 "2011-09-23T14:26:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/21 "2011-09-25T15:15:38Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > We laugh, but many “truthers” believe it takes only an engineering degree and some YouTube videos to determine the cause of the collapses. They accept the opinions of engineers who’ve only watched YouTube videos, but who agree with them, and dismiss the opinions of engineers who’ve investigated the collapses empirically (as best as they could), but who don’t agree with them. > > Research “Danny Jowenko.” And even his opinion is dismissed 66.667% of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/22 "2011-09-27T05:09:37Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Heh - that’s awesome! How will US American truthers respond to having the enemy on their side? Aren’t most truthers the sort of leftist who think that Iran is a paradise and anyone who says different is just a war propagandist? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/23 "2011-09-27T15:07:06Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Aren’t most truthers the sort of leftist who think that Iran is a paradise and anyone who says different is just a war propagandist? No. See my post above. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/24 "2011-09-27T21:12:27Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Aren’t most truthers the sort of leftist who think that Iran is a paradise and anyone who says different is just a war propagandist? Really? Have you ever met a leftists? (And how could you avoid it on this board?) I’ve never heard anyone on “the left” (or “the right” for that matter) claiming Iran is a paradise. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/25 "2011-09-27T21:20:21Z")
> [@Wallenstein](#): > > It’s not just the moon. Apparently Belgium [doesn’t exist](http://zapatopi.net/belgium/)either. It exists. It just [doesn’t have a government](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932011_Belgian_political_crisis). > [@Wallenstein](#): > > (Not sure if whoosh or genuine, but interesting read either way) You’re not sure, huh? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/26 "2011-09-27T21:32:41Z")
Truthers come in both left wing and right wing varieties as well. I don’t know if either wing has a lock on the crazy, at least wrt this conspiracy. -XT ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/27 "2011-09-27T21:38:36Z")
It was Gary Condit all along. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/28 "2011-09-28T16:20:38Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Truthers come in both left wing and right wing varieties as well. I don’t know if either wing has a lock on the crazy, at least wrt this conspiracy. > > -XT Just look for the aluminum foil hat, that’s a pretty good indicator. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/29 "2011-09-28T16:26:27Z")
If Belgium doesn’t exist, then where the hell do Smurfs and waffles come from? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/30 "2011-09-28T16:28:29Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Just look for the aluminum foil hat, that’s a pretty good indicator. Yeah, but the left wingers have solar panels on their caps and right wingers have bible sayings stenciled in… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/31 "2011-09-28T16:34:06Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Aren’t most truthers the sort of leftist who think that Iran is a paradise and anyone who says different is just a war propagandist? The _Loose Change_ guys were, but there are also lots of far-right-wingers who think it was a Zionist/liberal commie plot. They just didn’t go to film school. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/32 "2011-09-28T17:16:20Z")
Apparently the Al-Qaeda people are getting ticked off by Ahmadinejad’s attempts to deny them credit for their great achievement. According to them, Ahmadinejad is just [jealous of their success](http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=239862). ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/33 "2011-09-28T17:19:17Z")
Gods, that’s…really something. Ahmadi is claiming that it’s all a CT, and AQ is smacking his foam flecked muzzle and saying he’s a CTer. Good grief we live in a weird world… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/34 "2011-09-30T02:41:47Z")
_[The New York Times](http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/stop-the-conspiracy-theories-al-qaeda-tells-iranian-leader/?ref=todayspaper)_ on Al Qaeda’s message to Ahmadinejad: > [@](#): > > “The Iranian government has professed on the tongue of its president Ahmadinejad that it does not believe Al Qaeda was behind 9/11 but rather, the U.S. government,” read an article in the magazine published under the byline Abu Suhail. “So we may ask the question: why would Iran ascribe to such a ridiculous belief that stands in the face of all logic and evidence?” Why would Al Qaeda ask that question? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/35 "2011-10-01T01:45:16Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Gods, that’s…really something. Ahmadi is claiming that it’s all a CT, and AQ is smacking his foam flecked muzzle and saying he’s a CTer. Good grief we live in a weird world… > > -XT [AQ on CTers:](http://www.disinfo.com/2011/09/al-qaeda-tells-iran-stop-spreading-911-conspiracy-theories/) > [@](#): > > The prescribers to these theories have been some scattered individuals here and there who do not posses the research capabilities and capacities that are only available to governments. They called CTers “scattered individuals”. Speechless. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/36 "2011-10-02T03:32:11Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Yes! Finally a reputable source that vindicates 9/11 Truthers. See [Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More](http://news.yahoo.com/irans-leader-2-planes-couldnt-bring-towers-down-003428338.html). Yes. But is [this](http://www.disinfo.com/2011/09/al-qaeda-tells-iran-stop-spreading-911-conspiracy-theories/) a reputable source? I sense a fallacy here. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/37 "2011-10-02T09:51:46Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > If Belgium doesn’t exist, then where the hell do Smurfs and waffles come from? A waffle is a smurf egg. Keep one for long enough and it will turn blue and grow arms and legs. It’s a good job waffles are so tasty, or we’d be knee-deep in smurfs. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328/38 "2011-10-02T10:42:14Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > If Belgium doesn’t exist, then where the hell do Smurfs and waffles come from? Actually, waffles are covered: > [@](#): > > Where do the waffles come from? > “Belgian Waffles,” fabled for being superior to normal waffles, were actually created in New York in 1964 during the World’s Fair. Then called “Bel-Gem” waffles, they were sold inside the four-acre Belgium Village, a “recreation” of a 19th century Belgium village. Actually, this was the first time in history that a Belgian village had ever been physically constructed. Didn’t see mention of the smurfs from a quick glance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindication-for-9-11-truthers/597328.md?page=1)