# Vindman and Sondland: further retaliation?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 9, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindman-and-sondland-further-retaliation/847669 "2020-02-09T10:01:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindman-and-sondland-further-retaliation/847669/41 "2020-02-11T14:39:29Z")

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he would not have a problem seeing Don Jr. or Eric or Ivana whacked like Fredo Corleone. Sammy the Bull Gravano saw his BIL whacked for breaking a mafia rule. Did not bother him.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindman-and-sondland-further-retaliation/847669/42 "2020-02-11T15:28:56Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> I believe Lt.Crn.Vinneman was going to be transferred anyway to the War College.

So it will be interesting if Vindman does get to go to one of the war colleges. I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump fucked him over on that somehow. I’ve never been in the military, but I imagine having a graduate degree or fellowship is important for an officer’s career track progression.

Trump is petty enough to involve himself. I remember seeing an interview with an Atlantic City contractor who sued Trump after getting stiffed and Trump basically blacklisted his company. Before his casino bankruptcies, he had enough pull in AC to keep other contractors from doing business with the guy’s company. If you did business with the guy, the Trump casinos wouldn’t do business with you. Of course, people soon realized Trump would fuck you and your business over pretty much no matter what.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindman-and-sondland-further-retaliation/847669/43 "2020-02-12T08:06:02Z")

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“In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge.” I saw that around here somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vindman-and-sondland-further-retaliation/847669/44 "2020-02-12T21:03:30Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I asked about this in one of the other threads, but how much power does Trump have to influence their assignments? Can he, for example, dictate they be put on latrine duty in Afghanistan? Can he personally veto any promotions or commendations recommended by their superiors?

He made a statement in the last two days that Vindman “should be punished”. I have to believe that the Army will stand behind Vindman on this and defy the President trying to extract vengeance on a man who was doing his patriotic duty. That doesn’t mean that Vindman won’t be passed over in the next promotion cycle as a sop to the White House.

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