# Vintage cartoon fans: memory boost needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [July 12, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108 "2024-07-12T14:45:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/1 "2024-07-12T14:45:00Z")
Last night was one of those nights where for no reason, I woke a number of times from a series of bizarre dreams. I don’t remember a single one of those, so rest safely assured you’re free of a tedious recounting of my brain sending its garbage to the dump. In one of the waking intervals though, something prompted me to remember a cartoon I saw a few times as a kid. Google and YouTube are failing me as I try to find more details. **The era:** old, possibly black and white. I would have seen this on a local channel that had a show dedicated to older, probably cheaper cartoons outside the ‘regular’ Bugs Bunny/Popeye/Huckleberry Hound axis. I recall a lot of the cartoons on this show were old-timey sing-alongs, the kind where you follow the bouncing dot as it lands on the current lyric. **What I recall:** There was some sort of invasion. Aliens? Enemy aircraft? Dunno. The aircraft were literal teacups and saucers, with the cups upside down on the saucers to make a domed UFO-looking thing. Anti-aircraft fire was provided by salt and pepper shakers. There was a pitched battle. It was weird. **Maybe related?:** I think it was the same cartoon but possibly this is just a co-located memory. There was a love interest, and she was injured in the fighting. Someone, a doctor maybe, opened her chest to repair what was a clockwork mechanism of some time. As a kid, I thought her heart was represented by a pretzel, but now I suspect I just didn’t know what a watch balance wheel looked like. Any of this sound familiar? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/2 "2024-07-12T15:19:52Z")
Sounds like the Max Fleischer cartoon Koko the Space Kop (1927). I can’t find a video, but here is a link with some story boards. > **[Hake's - "KOKO THE SPACE KOP" FLEISCHER CARTOON STORYBOARDS.](https://www.hakes.com/Auction/ItemDetail/46385/KOKO-THE-SPACE-KOP-FLEISCHER-CARTOON-STORYBOARDS)** > > "KOKO THE SPACE KOP" FLEISCHER CARTOON STORYBOARDS. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/3 "2024-07-12T15:55:14Z")
That’s a surprisingly good find, but I don’t think that’s it. I recall the cartoon being a little more sophisticated in graphic style, with more shading and perspective. I also don’t recall a human figuring so prominently. As a bonus though, here’s a Koko cartoon I have always loved, especially how it incorporates movie footage into the story. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5w6SGZgcTbI/hqdefault.jpg "Koko's Earth Control - Sound effect design!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w6SGZgcTbI) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/4 "2024-07-12T16:16:39Z")
I think you might be conflating two cartoons. To view the one with the watches, go to the 12:32 mark at this site: > [The Harveytoons Show Episodes : Famous Studios, Harvey Entertainment and Paramount Pictures : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/the-harveytoons-show/The+Harveytoons+Show+-+Boos+and+Arrows+-+Fiddle+Faddle+-+Land+of+Lost+Watches+(faded+%26+edited)+-+Fishing+Tackler+(Harvey+Toontake).mp4) The one with the flying saucers could also be a Harveytoon, but I don’t know which one. I suggest you surf the rest of the archive. If it does indeed have flying saucers, it’s probably dated later than 1947, the year that phrase was coined. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/5 "2024-07-12T16:46:21Z")
Here you go. See at 3m23s [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zXEVxzx9oxI/hqdefault.jpg "Dizzy Dishes (1955)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEVxzx9oxI&t=203/) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/6 "2024-07-12T17:08:22Z")
The widespread, esoteric knowledge of the Dope never fails to amaze. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/7 "2024-07-12T17:10:15Z")
The Little Audrey cartoon reminds me of **this one:** > [https://youtu.be/mA4s1QeGlwI](https://youtu.be/mA4s1QeGlwI) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/8 "2024-07-12T17:19:45Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > The widespread, esoteric knowledge of the Dope never fails to amaze. Actually, a quick keyword search on IMDB found it. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/9 "2024-07-12T17:25:13Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Here you go. Brilliant, thank you! It’s not exactly how I was remembering it, but after watching, it’s indisputably what I saw. Years of brain rot merged a few things together, including the bit from some other cartoon where one of the characters had a clockwork heart. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/10 "2024-07-12T17:30:52Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I think you might be conflating two cartoons. To view the one with the watches, go to the 12:32 mark at this site: And you were right in your suspicion. The balance wheel shaped like a heart (or like a pretzel to snack-driven young me) is right there at 17:40. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/11 "2024-07-12T17:32:47Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > > > The widespread, esoteric knowledge of the Dope never fails to amaze. > > Actually, a quick keyword search on IMDB found it. My google-fu is usually pretty good, but apparently my choice of search terms failed me today. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/12 "2024-07-12T17:41:39Z")
I remember seeing it when I was seven or eight, and kids could still go home for lunch and watch cartoons on TV. I think I’d seen every Harveytoon ever produced by the time I was ten. ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vintage-cartoon-fans-memory-boost-needed/1004108/13 "2024-07-13T11:27:36Z")
There was a _Milton The Monster_ episode where a Flying Saucer Monster and a Flying Cup Monster from Outer Space landed on Earth and tried to invade, could that be it?