# Violating my rights **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 15, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211 "2010-12-15T05:51:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/121 "2010-12-16T21:13:37Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Tell her that you will consult an attorney if she doesn’t reply in a timely manner with an acceptable solution. Chillafrilla, Rand Rover is an SDMB poster who strongly believes in protection of personal property rights. Why don’t you PM him and ask for pro bono representation? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/122 "2010-12-16T21:23:13Z")
> [@Euphoria2010](#): > > Oh haha. I don’t really believe anything unless I have hard facts. But I guess what I meant was that if that’s the way the principal is really acting get her ass on recording because i believe something like that would have her fired in a heart beat (at least I know it would in my town) In many states (including mine, Illinois) it’s illegal to record someone without their consent. He can certainly inform her in all future interactions that he plans to record what goes on. But she has the right to refuse to communicate with him if she doesn’t consent to being recorded. ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/123 "2010-12-16T21:31:52Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Chillafrilla, Rand Rover is an SDMB poster who strongly believes in protection of personal property rights. Why don’t you PM him and ask for pro bono representation? I see what you did there. And I admire it. I admire it so much. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/124 "2010-12-16T21:41:39Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Chillafrilla, Rand Rover is an SDMB poster who strongly believes in protection of personal property rights. Why don’t you PM him and ask for pro bono representation? That’s just _mean_. I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/125 "2010-12-16T21:43:53Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#): > > Tell her that you will consult an attorney if she doesn’t reply in a timely manner with an acceptable solution. Oh, that’s sure to strike terror into her heart. If by “terror” you mean “uncontrollable giggling”. What the principal should do is get some scissors, and cut out the part of the T-shirt that is offensive. The rest of it, you can have back immediately, and the picture when you graduate. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/126 "2010-12-16T21:49:27Z")
Not that anyone gives a damn, but I’d like to go on record as saying that I believe precisely NONE of this story. Not the original OP and not the follow-up. > [@Muffin](#): > > Chillafrilla, Rand Rover is an SDMB poster who strongly believes in protection of personal property rights. Why don’t you PM him and ask for pro bono representation? \ ---
**Author:** ![Jaguars](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaguars/32/5879_2.png) [@Jaguars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaguars)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/127 "2010-12-16T21:52:47Z")
Chillafrilla, welcome to the boards. Your shirt might not be pornography but it’s misogynist, and therefore offensive. It will be against your school rules _which you agreed to when you attended the school._ From your principal’s (A middle aged woman by the sound of it) view,she was offended and punished you by taking it away. All the screaming is not relevant - you argued with her, she argued back. Ask for your shirt back at the end of term. TL;DR: You were caught flouting the rules. Take your punishment like a man, not a crybaby. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/128 "2010-12-16T21:54:06Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Not that anyone gives a damn, but I’d like to go on record as saying that I believe precisely NONE of this story. Not the original OP and not the follow-up. Word. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/129 "2010-12-16T21:57:11Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Oh, that’s sure to strike terror into her heart. If by “terror” you mean “uncontrollable giggling”. > > What the principal should do is get some scissors, and cut out the part of the T-shirt that is offensive. The rest of it, you can have back immediately, and the picture when you graduate. > > Regards, > Shodan It’s not supposed to make anyone scared. It’s supposed to lay out the process we in America use to resolve disputes – unlike your suggestion, which is just bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/130 "2010-12-16T22:04:04Z")
[Mod Note]A gentle reminder to all that this is IMHO, not The BBQ Pit-Please don’t let it get out of hand. Thank you.[/Mod Note] ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/131 "2010-12-16T22:07:18Z")
Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zany_Zeolite_Zipper)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/132 "2010-12-16T23:23:23Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Not that anyone gives a damn, but I’d like to go on record as saying that I believe precisely NONE of this story. Not the original OP and not the follow-up. > > \ +1, but that’s not to say we cannot enjoy the ride. Guys, we are missing a brilliant opportunity here to play matchmaker. On one hand we have **Chillafrilla** , a punk-ass brat, raging against the machine, and on the other we have **Euphoria2010** , an alleged 22 year-old knocked up by her boyfriend of one month who a short few months later has found her one true love. **Chillafrilla** is trying to build a federal case out of a pornographic T shirt while **Euphoria** is trying to understand why anyone would want to go out with a girl who puts out and cannot get pregnant (or at least more pregnant). 😕 :it’s a mystery: 😕 My thesis is this: we should breed the two so that future generations of Dopers can enjoy the antics, if not the composition. BTW, **Chillafrilla** is an awesome name. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/133 "2010-12-16T23:43:48Z")
And PSXer could be her mental boyfriend ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/134 "2010-12-17T00:03:17Z")
> [@Jaguars](#): > > Your shirt might not be pornography but it’s misogynist, and therefore offensive. OT of course, but you wanna expand on this? A picture of a woman masturbating is misogynistic? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/135 "2010-12-17T03:02:43Z")
I thought I was right about this. Here’s one state’s view: > [@](#): > > Adult students > Who is an adult student? > The age of majority in Ohio is 18 years > of age (Ohio Revised Code Section (RC) > 3109.01). Once a student reaches the age > of 18, he or she is an adult in the eyes of > the law. Adult students acquire the right > to consent to release of their school > records, sign their own permission slips > and write excuses for their own absence. > Most custody orders automatically cease > upon the child reaching the age of majority. [http://www.ohioschoolboards.org/Files/Emancipated.pdf](http://www.ohioschoolboards.org/Files/Emancipated.pdf) An adult does not need any one’s permission to go on a field trip. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/136 "2010-12-17T05:50:04Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > \ No, [Joker Clap.](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081127235518/uncyclopedia/images/9/95/Joker_clap.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/137 "2010-12-17T06:04:41Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I thought I was right about this. Here’s one state’s view: > > [http://www.ohioschoolboards.org/Files/Emancipated.pdf](http://www.ohioschoolboards.org/Files/Emancipated.pdf) > > An adult does not need any one’s permission to go on a field trip. In this case, you’ve got a one in 50 chance of getting it right. **Chillafrilla** , would you mind telling us what state you reside in? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/138 "2010-12-17T06:06:48Z")
> [@Chillafrilla](#): > > I’m in California and it is my property don’t they need a warrant or something to confiscate something personal ? Never mind-it looks like he has already given us this info. So what does California law say on this subject? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/139 "2010-12-18T01:46:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Mod Note]A gentle reminder to all that this is IMHO, not The BBQ Pit-Please don’t let it get out of hand. Thank you.[/Mod Note] Notice this was in danger of getting out of hand the moment we invoked Rand Rover… ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211/140 "2010-12-18T04:08:18Z")
And people wonder why uniforms are preferred in so many schools. If the OP attends an alternative high school, doesn’t that explain the principal being a bit more unreasonable than most of us are familiar with? Difficult students are usually dealt with more harshly from the get-go, and the school rules are even more strict than traditional public schools in the same district. Yes? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violating-my-rights/564211.md?page=8)