# Violent Criminals Owning Guns **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306 "2020-01-12T13:26:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306/141 "2020-01-17T07:57:04Z")
> [@Kovitlac](#): > > And yet, though, all we have is his word, so that’s what people are basing their decision on. If new facts suddenly came to light, a lot of people here would feel differently, depending on those facts. But that won’t happen, as this is one person’s story and we don’t technically know if any of it even happened at all. So arguing details of a story that might actually be entirely fiction is, I feel, kind of moot. However, it’s real. I can’t take any of it back. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306/142 "2020-01-17T23:21:26Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Nah, it really wasn’t like that at all. It was more of a “glass houses” thing rather than any “lashing out” or whatever, but us felons often use faulty logic. Poor you, being called out for a stupid decision. I’ve made plenty on bad decisions in my life, but trying to set up a citation level offense as the equivalent of a couple of felonies is fucking stupid and comes across badly. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306/143 "2020-01-18T03:54:45Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Poor you, being called out for a stupid decision. I’ve made plenty on bad decisions in my life, but trying to set up a citation level offense as the equivalent of a couple of felonies is fucking stupid and comes across badly. Never said poor me, not making excuses. Context. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306/144 "2020-01-21T17:42:33Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > You’d like to think all courts were created equal. I never believe for a minute that all courts are created equal. However, all judges hate being reversed on appeal, and criminal defendants frequently appeal convictions on the grounds that they were not informed of the consequences of their pleas. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306/145 "2020-01-22T06:20:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I never believe for a minute that all courts are created equal. However, all judges hate being reversed on appeal, and criminal defendants frequently appeal convictions on the grounds that they were not informed of the consequences of their pleas. I would never waste a court’s time with such nonsense. I know it would be a stupid waste of time and if I had an OJ lawyer due to money, this thread would never have existed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-criminals-owning-guns/846306.md?page=7)