# Violent Left-wingers attack police

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507 "2009-09-25T12:59:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/41 "2009-09-25T16:43:46Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Posted without comment: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa\_viKg0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa_viKg0)

I don’t want to go too deep on that either - certainly the National Guard is thick on the ground around there. But certain aspects of that video struck me as hinky - when I was active duty and saw a few people get arrested by base Masters-at-Arms (similar to MPs) they sure didn’t do it like that.

Some bloggers are picking apart the video bit by bit scrutinizing the uniforms and the car license plate and everything else. I’m not going to get into the weeds on that. Nor will I call it a hoax straight out. But I will say that the whole thing should be looked into further.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/42 "2009-09-25T16:44:14Z")

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The issue isn’t the protesting fringe itself. The issue is the support they get from the wider movement.

Were there conservative leaders who endorsed the teabagger protests?

Are there liberal leaders endorsing the G20 protests?

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/43 "2009-09-25T16:46:35Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Incidentally, Pamela’s had just one location when I was at Pitt. I would go there sometimes for the “morning after breakfast.”

They have six now, all located in the Pittsburgh area. Still hardly a megacorporation.

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/44 "2009-09-25T16:48:40Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I’m pretty lefty and I’ve never heard of Annie the Anarchist.

That’s probably because large amounts of wind often make it difficult to hear.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/45 "2009-09-25T16:49:51Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> 1. you mean this and have just outed yourself as a **bigot**
> 2. you don’t mean this and have just outed yourself as a **troll**
> 
> which is it?

I vote 3) you’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/46 "2009-09-25T16:56:47Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> They have six now, all located in the Pittsburgh area. Still hardly a megacorporation.

So they’re not exactly taking on Eat 'n Park yet, huh?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/47 "2009-09-25T16:57:40Z")

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The police usually say someone threw a bottle. Nobody throws a bottle, but you can not prove it. So they wade into the protesters showing them who is boss, beating ,gassing and randomly arresting them.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/48 "2009-09-25T17:00:42Z")

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Only by all accounts this is not happening. Even the protesters are saying by and large that the police are acting with restraint.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/49 "2009-09-25T17:11:43Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> [Latest news & breaking headlines | The Times and The Sunday Times](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6848176.ece)
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> I find it hugely ironic, that after universal condemnation and demonization of (peaceful) right wing protests over the course of the summer, that it was the left wingers who instigate a riot, damage property, and attack the police.

Do you now? How very fascin…

_SNORE_

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/50 "2009-09-25T18:13:11Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I’m pretty lefty and I’ve never heard of Annie the Anarchist.

She’s from Wooshconsin.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/51 "2009-09-25T18:24:42Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Every single one of you are morons. Right-wing this, left-wing that, it doesn’t matter. In your zeal to play gotcha games you perpetuate that which you claim to disdain. Is it any wonder that hatemongers are able to co-opt so many people? Oh, but they’re just dumb right-wingers, right? Wrong. They are merely reflecting the current dynamic.

You are implying that “the current dynamic” is the same at both fringes of the spectrum. It isn’t. At present, the RW pretty much owns [eliminationism.](http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/140578)

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/52 "2009-09-25T18:25:36Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> No, sometimes this place is like a school yard.

Sometimes? At one point yesterday, the first 7 threads in the Pit consisted of political rock flinging. Around here it’s people bitching endlessly about the right wing. On the politics section of another board I frequent, it’s all about the liberal hate. Political discussions on both boards are exactly the same, and include an identical amount of righteous indignation. It’s comedy gold.

ETA: The post above is just perfect. “Yeah, but they’re worse than we are!!!”  
“He started it, Mom!!”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/53 "2009-09-25T18:33:47Z")

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**Sharp Eyed Observer Detects Hypocrisy of Left!**

World Reacts with Stunned Horror!

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, trembling in dismay as she downed another shot of gin, sent out an e-mail to fellow Congresspersons detailing her plan to register as a Republican, and suggesting a unanimous vote in the House to remove President Obama and beg for the return of G. W. Bush, promising to brush aside any pesky Constitutional issues, before hurling hugely into her waste basket…

President Bill Clinton voiced similar shock and horror, noting that while the right has consistently supported policies that resulted in the slaughter of thousands of innocent people and deny decent care to millions of others, they have never, at any time, supported the breaking of windows. In a demonstration of contrition, both of the Clintons have requested that the National Park Service issue a permit for them both to commit _hara-kiri_ at the Lincoln Memorial. Further updates from President Clinton’s remarks will be available as soon as he actually stops talking…

Prominent lefties on the Worlds Greatest Message Board were noticeably silent today, other than blubbering dismay and hysteria, aside from one exception who was, apparently, entirely confused about the significance of the phrase “window pane”…

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/54 "2009-09-25T18:46:58Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> 8.3%

To be fair, with such a small sample size it could be anywhere between 4-12%.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/55 "2009-09-25T18:53:29Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Sometimes? At one point yesterday, the first 7 threads in the Pit consisted of political rock flinging. Around here it’s people bitching endlessly about the right wing. On the politics section of another board I frequent, it’s all about the liberal hate. Political discussions on both boards are exactly the same, and include an identical amount of righteous indignation. It’s comedy gold.
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> ETA: The post above is just perfect. “Yeah, but they’re worse than we are!!!”  
> “He started it, Mom!!”

It’s only “funny” because you’ve actually bought into the right wing excuse that there’s no difference between the right and left.\* Something they always haul out when they get exposed. The American right wing IS worse than the left wing, and by a large margin. These people in the OP are the fringe, and largely not even an American fringe as pointed out upthread. The right wing lunatics are the Republican mainstream, the base of the party.

- Note that it’s always the Right that has to defend itself this way. You don’t see threads about right wingers doing bad things claiming that it proves that they are just as bad as the Left.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/56 "2009-09-25T19:08:57Z")

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Am I the only one who thinks the term “left-wingers” is weird, while “right-wingers” is perfectly ok? Must be because right-wing sort of rolls off the tongue, while saying “left-winger” feels like chewing cud.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/57 "2009-09-25T19:19:33Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Am I the only one who thinks the term “left-wingers” is weird, while “right-wingers” is perfectly ok? Must be because right-wing sort of rolls off the tongue, while saying “left-winger” feels like chewing cud.

Not a hockey fan, are you?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/58 "2009-09-25T19:55:55Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> No - just that I wouldn’t describe these demonstrations as entirely peaceful, myself. But that’s a far cry from getting upset.

OK, then: bothered enough by to post about it on a message board.

Same diff.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/59 "2009-09-25T20:00:51Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The right wing lunatics are the Republican mainstream, the base of the party.

Exactly. How many Dem Congresscritters are making common cause with the protesters in Pittsburgh? I believe that would be zero. But there are plenty of GOP Congresscritters in both houses of Congress who repeat the craziest stuff that the right-wing lunatics spout.

And, of course, you have Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, with audiences in the millions, also repeating or originating this nonsense. What similarly influential lefty is saying things that are as crazy as what Rush and Beck say? You can’t find one.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/violent-left-wingers-attack-police/511507/60 "2009-09-25T20:14:58Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> OK, then: bothered enough by to post about it on a message board.
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> Same diff.

Why, yes, I am bothered by certain events in my hometown this week. Thanks for noticing. Although I find it funny that you aren’t calling into question the motives of **Hentor** or **Anne** , and they have expressed similar concerns.

Incidentally, this claim that I was upset about Edwards’ haircut - kindly authenticate that or drop it.

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