# Virginia Democratic Primary-Return of the Mack **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 10, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941 "2021-06-10T01:01:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/1 "2021-06-10T01:01:27Z")
Last night was an excellent night for moderate Democrats. Terry McAuliffe crushed the competition including the progressive favorite, Jennifer Carrol Foy > **[Virginia Governor Election Results 2021 | Live Map Updates | Voting by County](https://www.politico.com/election-results/2021/virginia/governor/)** > > Live 2021 Virginia primary election results and maps by county. POLITICO's coverage of the 2021 race for Virginia Governor. On the Lieutenant Governor race, I was happy to see Haya Ayala beat the the Our Revolution backed Sam Rasoul > **[Virginia Lieutenant Governor Election Results 2021 | Live Map Updates |...](https://www.politico.com/election-results/2021/virginia/lieutenant-governor/)** > > Live 2021 Virginia primary election results and maps by county. POLITICO's coverage of the 2021 race for Virginia Lieutenant Governor. And, to make the night complete, the very online socialist Lee Carter lost badly, not only was he crushed in his vanity run for governor, he also lost his primary for his seat in the Virginia House of Delegates. > **[Del. Lee Carter loses House seat after trailing for governor](https://richmond.com/del-lee-carter-loses-house-seat-after-trailing-for-governor/article_11dbbed1-e6f7-592a-88a2-7cad85f4d711.html)** > > Del. Lee Carter, D-Manassas, the Democratic socialist who sought the Democratic nomination for governor, also lost his House seat Tuesday in a Democratic primary. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/2 "2021-06-12T00:18:11Z")
Terry Mac was a surprisingly good (and surprisingly progressive) governor. It’s no surprise that he won the nomination again. I voted for him. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/3 "2021-06-12T02:28:30Z")
Is he likely to win the general, do you think? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/4 "2021-06-12T05:55:02Z")
Yes, definitely. Virginia is already effectively a blue state, and he’s a well known and popular former governor. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/5 "2021-06-13T00:55:06Z")
Agreed, I think Virginia has pushed pretty hard dem lately, particularly in Northern Virginia and probably Hampton Roads as well. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virginia-democratic-primary-return-of-the-mack/943941/6 "2021-06-13T17:57:51Z")
I dunno though if that “pretty hard dem” has had time to cement in place below the statewide (Governor/Presidential) races. For some time now Virginia has been one of those states with a pretty reliably steady legislature of one party while alternating governors. Now over the last 4 years that has been in flux. Governor-level it has had a reasonable level of alternancy since the 70s/80s. The bar on consecutive reelection probably helps with that since it makes every election technically “open”. Meanwhile, in the Legislature the majority in the Lower House was GOP for _20 consecutive years before the current term_, and comfortably so for most of those. The Senate at the same time was narrowly R for 20 out of the 24 years before the current term. (Before that, in turn, the houses had been of course rock solid old school D’s for over a century) So yes, the indicators seem to strongly favor retention of the governorship and majority with McAuliffe and the slate of Delegate candidates. However they should be wary of a reduction in that majority if they get overconfident in any tight House districts now that “desperate times” are not upon them.