Sure there are, they estimate about 100.000 thoused of them all over the place. However, not only WW2, since there where a few more in Europe, you properly mean stuff like this:
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here some WW2 stuff*
I’m not familiar with official Klan insignia. Having just visited their website though, I can say that Confederate flag items are featured considerably more times in their store than the USA flag, by at least 15:1, I would estimate. The modern Klan seems to have a adopted a cross in a circle motif. They sell a version of the Confederate flag with a small cross in circle in the center. A larger version with just the cross in a circle is being advertised as the one flying over their headquarters. But there’s all sorts of confederate flag items, with addtions like a medallion with Lee in it, slogans and so on. One is a confederate flag with the slogan reading, “You have your flag, I have mine.” Some are just things like “Dixie Pride” and “White Pride” with the words colored like the confederate flag.
In short, it’s clear that even if its use is unofficial, the Klan still claims the Confederate flag as one its main emblems. Clearly, it must be a big seller for them or they wouldn’t slap on every available flat surface. I stand by saying the Klan uses the Confederate flag.
That is a PPSh-41. The statue is by Lev Kerbel, a realist sculptor who worked for various Communist governments.
The statue is in East Germany, and is probably supposed to represent the glorious liberation of East Germany from the Nazis by the Red Army. Here’s an East German stamp showing the statue.
You do have a point… I wasn’t promoting equal statuary for slave soldiers etc, but making a point that the Civil War is never far away in any southern town. The fact that the monuments only honor white soldiers or white people is ironic.
While approximately 200,000 blacks served in the Union armed forces (and 40,000 died, including those prisoners massacred by Confederate troops at Fort Pillow), it’s estimated that a few thousand blacks were taken into the Confederate army in the last days of the war, most in menial roles like cooks and so on. At best, there’s weak anecdotal evidence that a hundred to a few hundred actually saw combat.
So much for the '“blacks fought to uphold the traditions of the South” argument propounded by Confederate apologists.
By the way, according to USA Today the group that got Virginia’s governor to issue the Confederate History Month proclamation (reviving a practice dropped by preceding governors) was the Sons of Confederate Veterans, who say on their website:
“The preservation of freedom was the motivating factor in the South’s decision to fight the Second American Revolution.”
That a governor would kowtow to such revolting sentiments is disgraceful.
No, it isn’t. Considering what they were fighting for, I consider any black participation in the Confederate Army to be quite a lot - as in, I’d have thought there wouldn’t be any.
Quite aside from that, noncombatants in the Army are still in the Army. The fact that very few of them saw combat is immaterial.
In any case, the scholarship of the writers of the Civil War Gazette appears to be somewhat lacking. From your link:
1/300th of 750,000 - 900,000 is 2,500 to 3,000, not 200 to 300. :dubious:
You should definitely visit! I gotta say going to college @ William and Mary was one of the coolest and surrealist experiences I had. It’s always trippy to be waiting in line for your sub sandwich right behind Thomas Jefferson ordering his Tuna Salad, or volunteering at the nearby Hospital and Ben Franklin comes in from the ambulance because of heat stroke. :smack:
Oh, Ben…
But it’s a beautiful place, and it’s really awesome for those with a love of history and seeing how things work. So yeah- there are PLENTY of Virginians who take pride in the rest of their history, day in and day out, but the problem is that certain groups tend to get all the press. Slavery sells, British Anti-colonialism not so much.
I can’t see any legitimate way to support that viewpoint. The rebel states seceded because Abraham Lincoln was elected President – and their objection was that the platform on which he had been elected was unacceptable to them, not that he had somehow stolen the election or that he had no legal authority to govern according to that platform once he was in office. The latter would be consistent with the notion that “I didn’t betray America; America betrayed me”; the former is not.
Another source cites an account of one of the few instances of black troops in service to the Confederacy (during the retreat from Richmond in 1865), from a Confederate officer:
“Several engineer officers were superintending the construction of a line of rude breastworks…Ten or twelve negroes were engaged in the task of pulling down a rail fence; as many more occupied in carrying the rails, one at a time, and several were busy throwing up the dirt…The [Blacks] thus employed all wore good gray uniforms and I was informed that they belonged to the only company of colored troops in the Confederate service, having been enlisted by Major Turner in Richmond. Their muskets were stacked, and it was evident that they regarded their present employment in no very favorable light.”
These men reportedly came under Union cavalry fire at some point, which the site regards as seemingly “the only documented episode of “official” Black troops serving the Confederacy in Virginia as a unit under fire…When Lee surrendered his army at Appomattox, thirty-six African-Americans were listed on the Confederate paroles. Most were either servants, free blacks, musicians, cooks, teamsters or blacksmiths.”
Uh-huh. That’s “a lot” of blacks serving the Confederacy. :rolleyes:
Why not? I mean on a large scale, I understand what I think you’re trying to say. Different times, different upbringings, different views of the world, and such. But slavery? In 1860? I can’t give you that one. Hell, I can’t even give it to you in 1783. I know all the rationalizations they had, and the bullshit excuses they made, for slavery, but I cannot agree that they should not have known it was wrong. They should have. And they had tens of thousands of people telling them it was. So, actually, yes, I can say that slavery was wrong in 1860 and those people should have known it.
