# Virtue signaling? Cowardice? Or other (race relations topic)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 8, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821 "2021-06-08T06:29:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/81 "2021-06-09T05:07:52Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> ckets of hamsters in the booth but you won’t tell us why. The situation can’t be considered normal no matter what you say unless you provide a reasonable explanation for putting chairs out at a garde

I feel badly you don’t believe my story.

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/82 "2021-06-09T05:08:17Z")

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I said it was hypothetical.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/83 "2021-06-09T05:09:38Z")

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> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> I said it was hypothetical.

> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> I feel badly you don’t believe my story.

…you feel bad that someone doesn’t believe your hypothetical?

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/84 "2021-06-09T05:10:16Z")

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So now its my job to not only protect the black person from these evil, aggressive old ladies, but also to shield her from a mass shooter. Your point does not compute and proves the reason for putting the “don’t sit” signs has zero to do with the story.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/85 "2021-06-09T05:12:08Z")

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> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> I said it was hypothetical.

> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> I feel badly you don’t believe my story.

> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> So now its my job to not only protect the black person from these evil, aggressive old ladies, but also to shield her from a mass shooter. Your point does not compute and proves the reason for putting the “don’t sit” signs has zero to do with the story.

…so what is it this thread is about again?

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/86 "2021-06-09T05:14:00Z")

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Apparently its about why a company would place “Don’t sit here” signs on display furniture at a trade show.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/87 "2021-06-09T05:16:39Z")

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…why did they put don’t sit here signs on display furniture at a trade show, why did you run away when a black person broke the rules, and why did people laugh at the black person because they sat on a chair?

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/88 "2021-06-09T05:22:39Z")

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I didn’t “run away”, and I said the people “snickered”.

But here is my suggestion. Perhaps you can create your own thread and start a debate about the furniture signs there since you and several other posters are so obsessed with the reasons behind them. Maybe collectively you all can reach a consensus about why my company may have placed them on the chair.

Instead of hijacking this thread, all I’m saying.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/89 "2021-06-09T05:25:41Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> OP, I understand what you are going through.
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> I was working PT at a chain bookstore in Downtown San Jose, and very smelly, very dirty homeless men would come in.

I don’t think this “similar” anecdote paints the picture you want to paint.

Or maybe you could clarify how a black person at a booth (pergola) at a trade show is just like a smelly dirty homeless man loitering in a bookstore?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/90 "2021-06-09T05:25:50Z")

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Did the woman sit on one of the signs? Did she move it out of the way?

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/91 "2021-06-09T05:28:48Z")

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Sat on a cushion next to a cushion with a sign on it.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/92 "2021-06-09T05:29:23Z")

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What did the sign say?

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/93 "2021-06-09T05:48:21Z")

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> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> more likely it would have been a black woman who has been pushed around by whites all her life developing an oversensitivity made even more an open wound over the past year.

> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> I will agree with you on one point: we should never have furniture in the booth again. We don’t sell it anyway.

> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> The one thing this minor incident taught me is as a white man I need to spend extra time thinking about how to interact with minorities, and while today worked out, be prepared that the next time the circumstances might be more complicated and try even harder to see it from someone else’s point of view

This isn’t a gotcha. I’m looking at these comments and wondering how the one and only point on which you agreed with me was the minor one. The lesson you learned from this incident was hopefully not the last one you’ll learn because it’s really all based on your suppositions alone. How do you know they’re realistic? What would you do in a different situation? Like most of us, you have some work to do.

If you really, truly want to gain a better perspective, one that doesn’t rely on suppositions alone, you need to read more than some comments on a message board. The book I recommended is on nearly every book list for white people wanting to better understand the race situation. It’s not long, an easy read, and under $10–or free at your library. If you’re sincere in your desire to understand, surely you’ll be willing to put a few hours’ time into doing so.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/94 "2021-06-09T06:26:51Z")

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It is not but it is a situation that could be a employee in trouble.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/95 "2021-06-09T06:28:33Z")

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He does not want to say, why are you badgering him?

Just let it go.

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/96 "2021-06-09T06:48:52Z")

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I could give the smartass answer I want to give you but I don’t want yet another Mod warning (even though I’m the one being attacked).

So, I will direct you to the OP.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/97 "2021-06-09T06:49:36Z")

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> [@stuccosuperstar2020](#):
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> Sat on a cushion next to a cushion with a sign on it

So, instead of sitting on a seat that seemed to be reserved, she sat on the seat next to it?

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/98 "2021-06-09T06:50:41Z")

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I appreciate the suggestion, but it’s unlikely I’ll find the time to read the book.

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**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/99 "2021-06-09T06:51:07Z")

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It was a love seat.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/100 "2021-06-09T06:51:52Z")

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