# Visitors and Transplants: what have you only heard said in New England?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 31, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358 "2010-05-31T06:14:23Z")\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Don’t forget the more emphatic “wicked pissah”.
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> I don’t know if they’re strictly limited to New England, but I have heard that ‘bag’ or ‘sack’, and ‘pop’ or ‘soda’ fall into distinct regions of the country.

I’m from NJ. Never heard “sack” meaning “grocery bag” until I moved to Atlanta. Haven’t heard it since I moved out of the South.

Joe

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/82 "2010-06-04T00:42:27Z")

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> [@moldybread](#):
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> In Albany, New York all words ending in D suddenly start ending with a T. Like for instance, " Oh she’s stupit." or, “He kilt that deer.”…

Hmm, perhaps you have some stray Scottish accent influence there. 🙂 You sometimes hear that d/t thing in Celyncountry too.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/83 "2010-06-04T00:59:09Z")

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> [@Celyn](#):
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> Hmm, perhaps you have some stray Scottish accent influence there. 🙂 You sometimes hear that d/t thing in Celyncountry too.

In all seriousness, it’s a good possibility. Most of the immigrant Scots [settled on the east coast](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_American#Scottish_Americans_by_state) of the US (there are a fair number in CA too, though).

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/84 "2010-06-04T02:13:16Z")

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Never lived in New England. But here in West Virginia, ‘yinz’ is almost as popular as ‘y’all’; it’s a ‘garage sale’ even if you don’t have a garage. “Quarter of five” is perfectly acceptable. Tennis shoes _or_ sneakers are equally correct.

My FIL grew up in Missouri, and he says “Dinner” for the noon-time meal, as well as “down cellar”.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/85 "2010-06-04T14:04:38Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> So people for real don’t say cellar in other places?

“Cellar” is heard in other places, but not “down cellar.” You’d say “I’m going to the cellar” or “I’m going down to the cellar” or “It’s in the cellar.”

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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/86 "2010-06-04T14:22:22Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> Back to New England regionalisms. A “regular coffee” means you want cream and sugar.

ahem. Cream and \*two \*sugars, actually.

> [@congodwarf](#):
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> . The other was the Whale’s Tale in Hampton Beach NH. For some godawful reason, the Whale’s Tale went through an overhaul. The first time we went back after this happened, my boyfriend ordered a bowl of clam chowder (used to be so thick the spoon would stand up straight). They brought him that nasty ass red shit. What kind of self-respecting New England, ocean-view restaurant serves tomato soup with clams in it? blech.  
> Between that and the Happy Hampton burning down, and the ownership of the Regal Inn changing, what’s the point of going to Hampton Beach anymore? I can get a tattoo in MA now.

No way! I actually grew up in Hampton Beach - I lived on High Street over by the Jug (where are the arcade games were.) Our house was the first one beyond the Grist Mill.

> [@Skammer](#):
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> Also Friendly’s restaurants, which have spread beyond New England now but were very regional at the time.

I loved the fishmajig sandwiches! That’s what I ordered every time as a kid. And all 3 of my brothers had jobs there at various times.

For the record, we didn’t say “tennis shoes” - we said “tennies” which were different than your “pennies” which was your penny loafers.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/87 "2010-06-04T14:25:59Z")

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> [@Celyn](#):
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> Hmm, perhaps you have some stray Scottish accent influence there. 🙂 You sometimes hear that d/t thing in Celyncountry too.

That’s also an element of one of the handful of accents heard in the Appalachian South.

I know plenty of people who identify as being of Scottish descent.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/88 "2010-06-04T15:06:06Z")

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In New England, you will also get your share of French Canadian influence - which results in words like “birfday” for “birthday” and “sketti” for “spaghetti”

Oh, and we called both our grandmothers by Grammy. I’ve not heard that down here.

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You hear “birfday” and “sketti” or “pasketti” among children in southwestern Ohio.

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My parents are from Ossining, NY, and I grew up mostly in CT. My husband is from the Boston area, and we had memorable discussions about what frappes and bubblers are.

I always used the term “liquor store,” but I was aware of “package store.” When we moved to NC, I wanted to find a liquor store, so I looked in the Yellow Pages (because this was in the Olden Days). No listings. So I had a lightbulb moment and looked up “package store.” Several listings, but it turned out they were all mail/shipping places. Turns out there are no privately owned liquor stores - it’s all run by the state.

So wait, “sneakers” is a regional term? I had no idea! I do remember gym teachers also talking about wearing “tennies,” but generally we called them sneakers (and still do).

In my family, I have heard grinder, wedge, and hoagie all refer to submarine sandwiches. I’m pretty sure that’s a NY thing.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/91 "2010-06-04T17:27:52Z")

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Heh, I’m a west coaster, born and raised, and when I was a little’un we only called them “grinders.” When I started hearing hoagies, heroes and submarine, I got all confused, until I figured out they’re pretty much the same. Out this way, I hadn’t heard of a frappe until Starbuck’s started making them.

I use quarter of and quarter to interchangeably. I wore tennis shoes/tennies, but have heard sneakers from people too. It may have to do with where parents came from - as SoCal has so many transplants. I’m in Washington now, and locals call sweet carbonated drinks pop; I grew up calling it pop, and somewhere along the way, started calling it soda. Now, I’m back to pop. However, its correct term (when I was young and my mom had great influence on me), is soda pop.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/92 "2010-06-04T18:01:32Z")

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Born in Salem, lived on the North Shore of MA till I was 10 then moved to southern NH, went to college at UNH, moved to the Boston area for 9 yrs then moved to Atlanta 4 years ago. Moving to the South really magnified how New England I am.

To repeat what’s already been mentioned:

bubbler, tonic, sneakers, wicked, so don’t I, grinders, frappes, down cellar, jimmies, regular coffee, carriage, ghouls

To add: (most of them I remember my mother saying)

jughandles (to turn left in traffic), mi-ine (two syllable pronunciation of “mine”), big ball bowling (god I miss Candlepin), all set (as in, “I’m all set” meaning, “I’m finished”), dungarees, pocka book (pocket book/purse), bang a left/right/uey, book it (go fast),

I really miss Hoodsies.

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> [@](#):
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> **jughandles (to turn left in traffic)**, mi-ine (two syllable pronunciation of “mine”), big ball bowling (god I miss Candlepin), **all set (as in, “I’m all set” meaning, “I’m finished”), dungarees, pocka book (pocket book/purse)**, bang a left/right/uey, book it (go fast),

The ones I highlighted were common in New Jersey when I was growing up.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/94 "2010-06-04T18:52:36Z")

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> [@Phlosphr](#):
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> Um, didn’t we just say the same thing?
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> Born and raised in eastern CT and lived in RI [North Kingstown] for several years. Clear broth is the water left from the steamers or clams…red is from new york…I think we’re saying the same thing.

Sorry, that came off wrong. I was not disagreeing with you. We are indeed saying the same thing.

The “clear broth, my ass” comment was in reference to how much I hate clear-broth clam chowder. It’s an abomination, IMHO.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/95 "2010-06-04T22:42:07Z")

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> [@melodyharmonius](#):
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> In New England, you will also get your share of French Canadian influence - which results in words like “birfday” for “birthday” and “sketti” for “spaghetti”

Sure, but only if the speaker is under the age of six or so.

As for Grammy - and its male counterpart, Grampy - I’ve heard that it’s most common in French-Canadian and Portuguese families, which would fit with the fairly large populations of both in the northeast (people of French extract being common in NH/ME/VT and Portuguese being common in MA/RI).

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Moving to Philly from southwest Ohio there weren’t a lot of things that really threw me. I learned about the jimmies/sprinkles thing pretty quick but still refuse to use jimmies. It just sounds stupid. I learned that you definitely don’t order a Philly Steak and Cheese if you want a cheesesteak.

It was far more difficult trying to figure out how to buy booze than learning how to speak to people.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Relevant McDonald’s Coffee ad:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/user/Lax368#p/a/f/1/uFbxpWFs2jA](http://www.youtube.com/user/Lax368#p/a/f/1/uFbxpWFs2jA)  
> There’s another, with a couple of students in a library, but I can’t find a link.

I forgot about bubblers! My favorite school lunch day was grinder day. That was in Ct. Wicked was big in the 80’s but don’t hear it much anymore. In Ct. We called coffee, coufee, and water, wouda. Up here in NH everyone likes to put an AH on the end of everything that ends in er and I even catch myself doing it.

Lobstah  
Steamah  
Sodah

Aye yah!People don’t start sentences off with an I, we or you. It is more like, Going down to the beach. Got a new job, kids are off to camp.

I still call them chocolate shots?

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> [@](#):
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> but we tend to say “side by each” instead of “side by side.”

So a Vode Eyeland version of Side by Side by Sondheim would be called Side By Each By Sondheim?😛

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/visitors-and-transplants-what-have-you-only-heard-said-in-new-england/541358/99 "2010-06-05T11:30:42Z")

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> [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](#):
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> So a Vode Eyeland version of Side by Side by Sondheim would be called Side By Each By Sondheim?😛

Yep. Don Bousquet, one of our local cartoonists, once did a cartoon with a vaudeville song and dance team singing “We’ll be travellin’ along, singin’ a song, side … by … each!”

Here’s more : [Quahog.org Guide to Rhode Island Language Stuff](http://www.quahog.org/factsfolklore/index.php?id=43)

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> Here’s more : [Quahog.org Guide to Rhode Island Language Stuff](http://www.quahog.org/factsfolklore/index.php?id=43)

😃 I’m a bit confused by their guide to pronouncing Chourico, though. Everyone I’ve ever heard say it has said shuh-deese not shuh-reese.

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