# Vote GOP 2018! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756 "2018-04-20T05:02:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/81 "2018-05-05T22:35:44Z")
I don’t have a problem with the Post Office. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/82 "2018-05-08T05:24:07Z")
[quote=“Covfefe, post:80, topic:812756”] [/QUOTE] But Alex Jones pushes conspiracy theories. If the satire has real bite by virtue of being true, it can effect reform if it provokes a response. Don’t you think? Or do you really think all this is just another pull on the chains against the center, entirely destructive and not at all constructive? Framing criticism as Alex Jones sensationalism pretty much shuts down criticism, don’t you think? Or do you have a set of criticism-circumscribing guidelines? Anyway, [Vote GOP 2018! poster 5](https://i.imgur.com/XoPePeX.jpg) touches on the body language theme. I think the difference is in an honest person doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/83 "2018-05-08T20:46:55Z")
Uh…I have no idea what you mean by “body language”, or what the fuck is going on. Just don’t quit your day job. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/84 "2018-05-09T04:22:00Z")
I was responding to\*\* Covfefe\*\*'s link which was a body language analysis video of Alex Jones crashing a taping of Cenk Uygar’s show. He shows up uninvited with a loud crew, goes right onto the set, blocking guests, slapping the host on the back rudely, interrupting everything, until finally he starts waving around a custom T-shirt in the form of Obama’s “Hope” poster, only it is Bill Clinton’s face and the word is “rape.” The video pauses constantly while the commentator points out things about everyone’s body language. Eventually there is cursing and shoving, security escorts the intruders out, but the damage is done. I think the link was meant as a commentary on my posters. Thing is, Clinton -\> rape is purely provocative. Even if you internalize the message, what are you supposed to do? Proscute Clinton? I think they already tried that and it did not stick, so the whole thing is a false, casual accusation of a felony. In the context of an assholish intrusion into the taping of the guy’s show. In contrast, I am posting images on a public message board, yanno, a place where people post stuff? The ideas are provocative, but for all the flak I have received, I have not got any comments on what is False in the images. None of that. So I totally reject the comparison to Alex Jones. But some of the links on this video website include Jones spoofing on the shirtless Putin motif. One thing we do have in common is that we recognize that righties have some kind of thing for burly shirtless guys manhandling large animals, I can only speculate as to why. So we have both seized on this body language motif to get the attention of righties. The difference is that I am an honest person with a supportable message. Everyone in America should grok it. If we are sharing advice in this thread, I would suggest not prefacing articles of advice with the phrase “I don’t know what the fuck is going on.” They just don’t pair well, yanno? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/85 "2018-05-09T06:04:45Z")
Toxoplasmosis. A brain parasite that makes mice crazy, so that they are attracted to the cats that eat them, and reproduces in their innards. A human variant has broken out, and infected our electorate. So, we gotta kill all the cats. Big, stupid and sloppy dogs are exempt, of course. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/86 "2018-05-09T07:32:51Z")
Kim Jong Un doesn’t see Trump as a kindred spirit at all. Kim just realizes that the time to “negotiate” with the Americans is when the American leader is weak and stupid. Trump is America’s gift to its enemies. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/87 "2018-05-09T07:49:40Z")
I am a liberal. In the US context, I am a far-far-far-left liberal who would make Democrats nervous. I understand the posters and what they mean. They are stupid posters and a terrible idea, because they only make sense if you already agree with them. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/88 "2018-05-09T14:25:25Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > So three posters supposedly represent all people on the right? I’d like to hear your explanation of how that is. > [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > They don’t. They are about what the GOP represents. You know…I read ignorant posts on this board all the time. That was one of the more egregious ones. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/89 "2018-05-09T14:34:49Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You know…I read ignorant posts on this board all the time. …nahh, too easy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/90 "2018-05-09T14:52:38Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > …nahh, too easy. Once in awhile it’s OK to shoot the fish in the barrel. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/91 "2018-05-09T15:04:10Z")
Sometimes that’s actually the compassionate thing to do for the fish. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/92 "2018-05-09T15:30:17Z")
I’m just not sure the previous wisdom that we need to avoid offe ding the other side in order to win holds up. Trump didn’t worry about that at all. He just focused on channeling right leaning anger, and being the bully that would make the left frothingly angry. I definitrly think the kumbaya “let’s all sit down and talk together” is naive. I don’t think our focus should be on convincing the diehards they are wrong. We need to focus on convincing more of our side to realize just how bad they really are, so maybe we can get that desire to stop “evil” on our side. The right has so much power in turning liberal, SJW, white knight, leftist, progressive, feminist, and so on into bad words. We even see supposed liberals treating the good guys as bad. That’s the power we need on our side, to actually use for good. The alt right has been so attacked, but that’s all we seem to have. It seems like the OP wants to try and do the same to GOP. And they have the bonus of telling g the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/93 "2018-05-09T16:09:06Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You know…I read ignorant posts on this board all the time. So you proofread? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/94 "2018-05-09T18:23:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You know…I read ignorant posts on this board all the time. That was one of the more egregious ones. No, really, **clothy**. Look at the premise- that GOP voters are largely suckers. That implies that they are being fooled- they think they are getting one thing but are actually getting another. The idea is to present what the GOP really represents as if those things are virtues or achievements, and prompt the suckers to consciously vote for it. So no, the idea is not to “represent all conservatives” but to represent what they seem not to realize they have been suckered into supporting. But then again, they say a poem is a different work for every reader and that the author’s intentions go out the window once he sets it loose. If you just don’t believe me, maybe something like that is at work here. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/95 "2018-05-10T04:42:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Toxoplasmosis. A brain parasite that makes mice crazy, so that they are attracted to the cats that eat them, and reproduces in their innards. A human variant has broken out, and infected our electorate. > > So, we gotta kill all the cats. Big, stupid and sloppy dogs are exempt, of course. Close, but not quite. We have determined that it is [this guy](https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20072). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/96 "2018-05-10T04:55:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m just not sure the previous wisdom that we need to avoid offe ding the other side in order to win holds up. Trump didn’t worry about that at all. He just focused on channeling right leaning anger, and being the bully that would make the left frothingly angry. > > I definitrly think the kumbaya “let’s all sit down and talk together” is naive. I don’t think our focus should be on convincing the diehards they are wrong. We need to focus on convincing more of our side to realize just how bad they really are, so maybe we can get that desire to stop “evil” on our side. > > The right has so much power in turning liberal, SJW, white knight, leftist, progressive, feminist, and so on into bad words. We even see supposed liberals treating the good guys as bad. That’s the power we need on our side, to actually use for good. The alt right has been so attacked, but that’s all we seem to have. > > It seems like the OP wants to try and do the same to GOP. And they have the bonus of telling g the truth. It’s not about “let’s be nice”, it’s “let’s not look like a bunch of rabid lunatics”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756/97 "2018-05-10T09:52:16Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > So you proofread? I dunno - using the shotgun was a little unsporting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-gop-2018/812756.md?page=4)