# Vote to save "Angel"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 7, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157 "2003-04-07T20:09:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/1 "2003-04-07T20:09:09Z")

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[Vote here!](http://www.usatoday.com/life/front.htm)

Read in USA Today that a few shows are on the fence. Shows include “Big, Fat Greek Life,” “Boomtown,” and one of my favorite shows, “Angel.”

In order to vote you need to give USA Today your year of birth, sex and zip code.

Maybe if enough of us vote, the networks will listen.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/2 "2003-04-07T20:33:27Z")

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Well, I have a pretty good source that says WB has, in fact, picked up Angel, and that James Marsters and Allison Hannigan are both signed on “for a few episodes”. Though this probably won’t be announced until May when they do the fall line-up. IOW, I wouldn’t worry too much.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/3 "2003-04-07T20:34:33Z")

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Actually, I think[this is the link](http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/front.htm).

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/4 "2003-04-07T21:51:26Z")

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By all means, sign up for marketing materials from USA Today! Er, I mean “vote”!

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/5 "2003-04-07T21:58:01Z")

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That is great news **pepperlandgirl**. Thanks for sharing. I have been rather anxious about it.

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/6 "2003-04-07T22:46:02Z")

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Yeah, the WB is pretty excited about the possibility of former _Buffy_ regulars guest-starring (or even becoming regular cast members) on _Angel,_ so its renewal, while not official, is pretty much a done deal.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/7 "2003-04-07T23:00:36Z")

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Considering the run Ats has had this winter/sppring, I would very much doubt if WB didn’t pick it up. All the fans are raving, new fans are added. As seen on this board, even Buffy-fans, who hate the character Angel, tunes in. When Buffy is gone, I’m sure a big part of the fanbase will go from UPN to WB, if not all. If Spike and Willow is in the mix, I’m sure that’ll help.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/8 "2003-04-08T11:26:24Z")

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Now, now, **Otto** , you have to actually click on the boxes to sign up for all that crap. (As opposed to other sites where you have to UNclick them.)

BTW, I’m wondering if there’s ANYONE out there that wants to save “My Big, Fat Greek Life” which is cringingly bad.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/9 "2003-04-08T13:45:26Z")

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Voted.

You also have to give them a functioning email account to spam as well. They say “give an email address” doesn’t mean it’s _mine_. Not that I don’t trust USA Today . . . .

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/10 "2003-04-08T14:24:05Z")

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When asked recently if this is the last year of Angel, Joss Whedon said, “No.”

Short and sweet.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Frink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Mr.Frink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Frink)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/11 "2003-04-08T22:36:22Z")

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Considering that it’s doubtful that networks pay much attention to actual _mailed-in letters_ asking them to save a show, I really doubt that this _USA Today_-poll-thingie will make any impact at all. _USA Today_ will like getting some demographic information on who’s visiting their webpage, though.

If it makes you feel good, by all means, participate in this poll. But don’t think that it will make any difference at all in **WB** ’s eventual decision…

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/12 "2003-04-12T14:25:31Z")

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Now we all know that imdb is not always correct, but [this](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0162065) is interesting:

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> Credited cast:  
> David Boreanaz … Angel/Angelus  
> Charisma Carpenter … Cordelia ‘Cordy’ Chase  
> Glenn Quinn … Doyle (1999)  
> Alexis Denisof … Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (1999- )  
> J. August Richards … Charles Gunn (2000- )  
> Amy Acker … Winifred ‘Fred’ Burkle (2001- )  
> Vincent Kartheiser … Connor (2002- )  
> Andy Hallett … Lorne (2000- )  
> Julie Benz … Darla (2000-2001)  
> Caroline Reitman … Cody Laim **(2003-2004)**
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> [snip]
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> Vladimir Kulich … The Beast **(2002-2003)**

Notice the bolded years. Good sign or simple mistake?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/13 "2003-04-12T14:47:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Homebrew \*  
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> > Vladimir Kulich … The Beast (2002-2003)
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> Notice the bolded years. Good sign or simple mistake? \*\*

Probably neither, since The Beast was on the show both at the end of last year and the beginning of this year.

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**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/14 "2003-04-12T18:31:12Z")

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Well, **Ashtar** , I don’t know if this is what you were alluding to, but I think what **Homebrew** was trying to say was that the other dates are left open (indicating the show will continue), whereas the dates for Cody and The Beast are closed, either indicating those characters will be killed off, or the show will come to an end. Either way, the IMDb goofed up by making such a revelation.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vote-to-save-angel/167157/15 "2003-04-13T04:34:26Z")

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Partly right, **vandal**. The most interesting part, I thought, was that Cody Liam appears in 2004 – next year .
