# Voter fraud discovered!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083 "2012-09-28T01:37:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/41 "2012-09-29T03:18:52Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> You really think anybody’s got time to wade through all those links, especially since you haven’t given us even a hint of what point you’re trying to make?

I checked a few, but by no means all. There are a number of dead links, but most of the live ones go to stories about voter fraud, often involving absentee ballots.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/42 "2012-09-29T03:18:53Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I don’t think you understood. You’re what’s wrong with America because your seething anger at imaginary issues is what’s gumming up the works.
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> You aren’t angry at real things. You are angry at things that people have told you are real. If you actually were informed you might be useful to society, but because of the fiction you’ve embraced, you’re actually working against it.
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> You’re not a bad person, I suspect. You’re just a dupe.

Well, there’s nowhere to go from here without hijacking the thread. If you want to start another thread and Pit me, go ahead, but I probably won’t participate.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/43 "2012-09-29T03:20:10Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> He’s on your side. Go on and give him a hug.

Doesn’t matter. You don’t just post a bunch of links. You’re supposed to actually say something, otherwise there’s no point in bothering with you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/44 "2012-09-29T03:22:01Z")

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You know, the SDMB Server Dynamo only has one hamster devoted to parsing URLs. You guys might have killed him.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/45 "2012-09-29T03:43:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You know, the SDMB Server Dynamo only has one hamster devoted to parsing URLs. You guys might have killed him.

Well, better him than us.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/46 "2012-09-29T04:01:42Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> Did the brain fairy leave a quarter under your pillow last night?

You must enjoy the pit. You can just insult people with no serious demands for you to make a cogent argument. Pure heaven I imagine.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/47 "2012-09-29T06:07:23Z")

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Aww, it was just a googlepuke-- embarrassing, but better than a skid mark when your squeeze is doing the laundry.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/48 "2012-09-29T09:08:50Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I checked a few, but by no means all. There are a number of dead links, but most of the live ones go to stories about voter fraud, often involving absentee ballots.

I suspect they were all posted on another site. This is my favorite voter fraud story involving a state Secretary of State:  
[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-jury-convicts-indiana-elections-chief-of-voter-fraud-20120204,0,105867.story?track=rss](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-jury-convicts-indiana-elections-chief-of-voter-fraud-20120204,0,105867.story?track=rss)

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> 10:33 a.m. CST, February 4, 2012
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> NOBLESVILLE, Ind (Reuters) - An Indiana jury convicted embattled Republican Secretary of State Charlie White in the early hours of Saturday on six out of seven felony charges including perjury, theft and voter fraud.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/49 "2012-09-29T21:12:30Z")

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The story I read suggested that the problems with the 108 registrations weren’t of the “Mickey Mouse” kind, but rather of the “missing information” type. Which could fit in with Sproul’s reputed earlier MO of trying to fuck up Democratic registrations. If Republican voters were helpfully encouraged to fill out all the blanks, while Democratic voters were ignored when they left out their social security number or failed to fill in their middle name or whatever, then it could turn up a pattern like that.

Of course, it could also just be paid-by-the-registration volunteers trying to defraud the company, but with Sproul’s track record, I wouldn’t count on that being all that’s going on. Of note is that independent registration companies like Sproul’s are required to set aside all questionable registrations like the 108 mentioned and report them to the proper authorities. They didn’t. (Also note: ACORN did.) And it further might be worth noting that Sproul’s company was hired by the RNC (and in the primaries, also by the Romney campaign I believe) even after the allegations levied against him in 2004, with IIRC someone at the RNC going so far as to encourage them to change the name of the company so it wouldn’t be linked to the earlier unpleasantness.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voter-fraud-discovered/636083/50 "2012-10-01T07:13:51Z")

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[Wait, there’s more.](http://www.thenation.com/blog/170246/gop-fires-controversial-voter-suppression-operative-he-still-playing-dirty-tricks-califo)

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> Within a day of The Nation’s reporting the story, officials with the national Republican Party cut ties with [Nathan] Sproul, whose firm has already received $3.1 million for work in Virginia, Florida, Nevada, North Carolina and Colorado. Although the payments were made by state party committees, its now clear that the Romney campaign and the national GOP coordinated the effort.
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> But here’s confirmation of another wrinkle in the story—the Los Angeles Times reports that Republicans were so concerned with the many scandals surrounding Sproul and his previous work, they indeed asked him to set up a shell corporation to hide the payments. Here’s what Matea Gold and her colleagues reported today: “But his reputation is such that when Sproul was tapped by the RNC to do field work this year, officials requested that he set up a new firm to avoid being publicly linked to the past allegations.” The shell is called “Strategic Allied Consulting,” but Sproul’s real firm carries the name “Sproul and Associates” and “Lincoln Strategy Group.”
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> It appears that the Republican Party of California might have its own deal with Sproul, and is also attempting to hide it from the public.
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> As I noted in an update to my post on Wednesday, the California Republican Party has made $430,840 in payments to “Grassroots Outreach, LLC” this cycle for voter registration and petition gathering.
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> According to this disclosure, Grassroots Outreach shares the same address as Sproul’s office in Tempe, Arizona. Craigslist job postings in California use identical language as Sproul’s shell company, Strategic Allied Consulting.

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