As I pointed out, you don’t have to be a citizen to get a driver’s license either, yet that is acceptable identification for voting. So what is the real reason for these laws?
Voter ID Laws: Necessary to combat rampant fraud or subtle subjugation of the Democratic demographic
Actually in Florida they require a birth certificate or a passport when you get your driver license if you are a US citizen. I know this because I had to dig out my birth certificate and SS card when I renewed my driver license last year. Passports work also, but mine was expired.
The id requirements are different for non-citizens.
You can also register to vote at the same time.
That is incorrect in Florida. Read post 662.
Is there a citizen/non-citizen indication on the driver’s license? If not, it is not proof of citizenship.
Which part is incorrect? According to your cite, non-citizens can get a Florida driver’s license.
You said, and keep saying that it’s impossible to find fraudulent voters, but the article stated that 11 cases were found. So 11 impossible people exist?
But how could you find my views, in reality, on security systems to be funny when I never offered them?
You’re very confused. You ought to just admit that you foolishly misunderstood an analogy in a discussion thread and leave it at that.
Now I see the confusion.
There are types of fraud that are virtually impossible to prove. For example, an illegal immigrant who came across the border, as opposed to overstayed his visa, can’t be caught with our current system.
I did not say that all types of voter fraud were uncatchable.
I hope your mind is now at rest regarding impossible people.
The purpose is to reliably prove that a given person was the one who cast the ballot.
Confusing. It doesn’t work, but we have to do it anyway?
There are many reliable forms of ID that are specifically impermissable under some state’s voter ID laws. Student ID, for one. Yet, a concealed carry permit is acceptable. See a pattern?
By the way, Bricker. I searched too and couldn’t find anything about PA poll workers checking, or not checking, addresses. I’ll get back to you on this in November unless I happen to run across a poll worker before then.
If the pattern is “ID issued by the state” - yes.
The state doesn’t issue passports.
The federal state does. Student IDs are not issued by state - either federal or local.
Aren’t state universities funded and operated by the state?
But the driver license identifies them as non-citizens, so they can’t use their driver license to register to vote. I’m not sure where the information is encoded. I called a German friend of mine to ask what it said on her driver license and the conversation kind of got side tracked when she realized the license expired last month.
It is possible that the information is encoded on the bar code or mag stripe on the back or maybe there is some on-line database to check.
Yes - but they don’t check residency status at many universities. For example, this recent graduate from UCLA is not here legally:
(as an aside, 'luci kept on asking when would an illegal immigrant openly state their status - here is a young woman with her photo and story making up the key above-the-fold story in the LA Times).
(second aside - I support aspects of the DREAM act where someone like her could be fast-tracked to citizenship. Waste of my tax dollars to have her not working.)
She has admirable courage. As you may have noticed, such courage does not lie thick upon the ground. But yes, you have one. End zone spike authorized.
Cite?