# Voting for Haley in primary {March 3, 2024, she suspended her campaign, did not endorse Trump}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 27, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177 "2024-02-27T17:25:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/41 "2024-05-23T16:48:40Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Is Haley’s calculus that in the immediate post-Trump political world … conservative voters would _still_ hold failure to support Trump against her?

Yes and she’s correct to think so. There is no post-Trump political world. Conservatism IS Trumpism and has been for almost a decade now. It will be for at least another decade more.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/42 "2024-05-23T16:54:02Z")

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Yikes. That’s going to be a hard reckoning for American conservatives.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/43 "2024-05-23T16:54:22Z")

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No it isn’t. They love Trump.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/44 "2024-05-23T16:56:58Z")

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But he’s not immortal.

The conservative voter of the 2040s is … still going to be casting lonely eyes to a (virtually certainly) long-deceased figure?

This is a hijack, but could be interesting to muse in a new thread.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/45 "2024-05-23T17:01:03Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> The conservative voter of the 2040s is … still going to be casting lonely eyes to a (virtually certainly) long-deceased figure?

:cough: Reagan :/cough:  
And on the other side; Kennedy, and despite them not being dead yet, Clinton, and Obama.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/46 "2024-05-23T17:50:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So she sold out.

Sold out suggests that Haley is getting something out of this. (The future will tell.)  
I prefer to think of this as her attempt to buy in.  
Sadly (for her), she isn’t even going to get a used Trump NFT.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/47 "2024-05-23T17:54:42Z")

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She thinks that if she kisses the ring she’ll get back into good graces with the rabid GOP base. I don’t think she’s right. She has already lost her political future, may as well keep her integrity. But she has Potomac Fever, the only cure for which is embalming fluid.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/48 "2024-05-23T17:58:24Z")

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It’s a very tepid endorsement. Not really an endorsement at all. As a republican she signs her political death warrant if she says she’s going to vote for Biden. Now she’s saying she will vote with the party while still bringing up the issues she spoke about in the campaign. She will only be 56 in 4 years and wants to be the candidate. If Trump wins she lays low. If Biden wins she still gets to be a viable future candidate and a voice for the party. Politically it’s probably her only move.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/49 "2024-05-23T18:12:49Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> I realize that Trump’s affect on the conservative electorate won’t disappear immediately once he’s off the stage … but surely the shelf life of that affect will be reasonably short? Will there be Trump-support purity tests in 5-10 years (assuming Trump loses in November 2024)?

There are those in their community who are still whinging about the “Lost Cause” of the US Civil War, so yeah, they can drag this out a bit. If Trump loses, everything that happens between that, and the next GOP Presidency, will be blamed on those who “Stabbed Trump in the back” by not supporting him fanatically enough.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/50 "2024-05-23T18:40:37Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> :cough: Reagan :/cough:  
> And on the other side; Kennedy, and despite them not being dead yet, Clinton, and Obama .

I don’t think I explained myself well.

I don’t mean remembering someone respectfully, or even invoking a past figure as an inspiration. I mean full-on “_Are you Trumpist enough?_” purity tests living on much longer after Trump effectively leaves public life and/or passes away.

I don’t recall, for example, Bill Clinton or Barack Obama having to publicly say “the right things” about John F. Kennedy, or being politically constrained from saying critical about JFK. Same for, say, McCain or Romney regarding Reagan.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/51 "2024-05-23T20:00:16Z")

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I just got my sample ballot for our meaningless June4th primary. On the Republican side there isn’t even a chance to make a protest vote for Haley. Trump is the only candidate on the ballot.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/52 "2024-05-23T20:03:24Z")

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Just another coward looking out for herself.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/53 "2024-05-23T20:30:26Z")

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Here’s hoping that a good number of those Haley supporters were first and foremost Trump opposers, and that they’re willing to prove it.  
Unlike Haley herself.

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/54 "2024-05-23T20:40:06Z")

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Interesting, on my ballot (Kentucky, primary election was Tuesday of this week), there was a name I didn’t recognize, Trump, and half a dozen or so names I did recognize, and an opportunity to choose “uncommitted” instead.

I voted for Haley, as a vote for more women and minority candidates in general, and not because I have any sort of a positive impression of her.

(I should also admit that I almost didn’t bother voting, but there was a very local office as the other thing to decide on in my precinct, so it was worth my time and energy to vote in both races as long as I was voting in one).

(I am a registered Republican because my parents both used to be registered Republicans, and I didn’t understand that that was because we lived someplace were Democrats were mostly in charge, and so voting Republican was some sort of a protest vote. Also, I’m too lazy to change. So I usually vote mostly for Democrats in the general election).

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/55 "2024-05-23T22:30:38Z")

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On the democratic side there is one name I don’t recognize.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/56 "2024-05-23T23:32:28Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> On the democratic side there is one name I don’t recognize.

You are also in Kentucky, right?

Marianne Williamson or Dean Phillips?

I voted for Phillips in the Pennsylvania primary beauty contest, but also voted for Biden’s delegates.

If I still was a Republican, I guess I would have voted for Haley in the primary.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/57 "2024-05-24T01:14:14Z")

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IIRC Loach is NJ hardcore.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/58 "2024-05-24T13:15:55Z")

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@Loach being from Kentucky did make me chuckle a bit.

Meanwhile Trump has said that Haley will have a place on his team “in some form” after her saying she’d vote for him.

> **[Trump suggests Nikki Haley will be on his team ‘in some form’ after vote pledge](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/24/donald-trump-nikki-haley-team/)**
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> “I’m sure she’s going to be on our team in some form, absolutely,” Trump said, saying he “appreciated” former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley’s pledge of support.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/59 "2024-05-24T13:27:37Z")

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And, there’s an Uncommitted “Justice for Palestine” line, too, right? I’ve never noticed an Uncommitted option in NJ before.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/voting-for-haley-in-primary-march-3-2024-she-suspended-her-campaign-did-not-endorse-trump/998177/60 "2024-05-24T16:53:21Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Meanwhile Trump has said that Haley will have a place on his team “in some form” after her saying she’d vote for him.

Special Consultant for Mass Transit Speen Attenuators.

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