# Vox? Valete? Globos meos lambe **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103 "2008-12-20T19:27:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/61 "2008-12-21T04:51:41Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I’m struck by the fact that I just saw a poster today say that she wants to see more people post with differing viewpoints. If people can’t even tolerate something as simple as a sig. without forcing others to conform, I think it’s pretty doubtful that people with widely differing viewpoints would be very welcome. What we would like you to do is “tolerate” the rules you agreed to when you signed up on this board, including [these.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697069&postcount=14) ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/62 "2008-12-21T04:55:35Z")
I just don’t see how that rule improves the quality of experience on these boards. Oh, and this stupid board software will not accept my 4-line signature. It only says it is valid as 3 lines, which makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/63 "2008-12-21T05:05:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > What we would like you to do is “tolerate” the rules you agreed to when you signed up on this board, including [these.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697069&postcount=14) And I do. Besides this one thread in one post, I don’t recall signing a post. I had asked about enforcement earlier since this thread wouldn’t even exist if compliance led to banning. Does it? As for my more philosophical point about conformity, I think your point only reinforces mine. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/64 "2008-12-21T05:07:51Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I’m struck by the fact that I just saw a poster today say that she wants to see more people post with differing viewpoints. If people can’t even tolerate something as simple as a sig. without forcing others to conform, I think it’s pretty doubtful that people with widely differing viewpoints would be very welcome. I suppose the argument would go that everyone on the board should be able to tolerate sigs. But if they can’t, they have an option to ignore them by hitting the ‘don’t display sigs’ box. I don’t understand why so many people are pissed off by it, but the board software gives them the ability to ignore it, the rest of us the ability to see sigs in all their glory. It just takes posters using the actual sig option, rather than typing it out. Easier on everyone, right? ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/65 "2008-12-21T05:09:21Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I suppose the argument would go that everyone on the board should be able to tolerate sigs. But if they can’t, they have an option to ignore them by hitting the ‘don’t display sigs’ box. > > I don’t understand why so many people are pissed off by it, but the board software gives them the ability to ignore it, the rest of us the ability to see sigs in all their glory. It just takes posters using the actual sig option, rather than typing it out. Easier on everyone, right? But we are only allowed to post the sig (which everyone can ignore) once per thread. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/66 "2008-12-21T05:11:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Moderator Note]As has already been noted [before](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10599417&postcount=27), what you are doing is considered a signature. Please use said signature once per thread. Thank you.[/Moderator Note] Am I reading this right–that y’all are really going to get me to stop putting my name at the end of posts? That seems really crazy ridiculous to me, on par with making it against the rules to split infinitives–and worse, since it’s something I’ve done for nearly two decades whenever typing posts on messageboards, I’m almost certain to screw up. I think something more reasonable would be to limit signatures to, say, two lines, and then leave well enough alone. –grr! erasing signature!– ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/67 "2008-12-21T05:11:48Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > But we are only allowed to post the sig (which everyone can ignore) once per thread. How many times do you really need to post it in order to feel special? What does it add on the fifteenth post that it doesn’t add on the first? ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/68 "2008-12-21T05:17:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Am I reading this right–that y’all are really going to get me to stop putting my name at the end of posts? That seems really crazy ridiculous to me, on par with making it against the rules to split infinitives–and worse, since it’s something I’ve done for nearly two decades whenever typing posts on messageboards, I’m almost certain to screw up. > > I think something more reasonable would be to limit signatures to, say, two lines, and then leave well enough alone. > > –grr! erasing signature!– Yes, I don’t know why he has taken it into his hands to change the effective status quo. Argh! ETA: **BS** , what do we lose from it? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/69 "2008-12-21T05:21:00Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > ETA: **BS** , what do we lose from it? These interminable arguments, ferchrissake! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/70 "2008-12-21T05:23:53Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > These interminable arguments, ferchrissake! So ban the arguments if it’s that important. I _like_ it when people sign posts, for the reasons I mentioned above. I think people complaining about it are getting off on whinging: it’s literally impossible for me to think of a pettier complaint that I’ve ever heard, and I teach second graders all day long. (Seriously: this puts “Mr. Dorkness, Jim-Bob was staring at me” to shame). ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/71 "2008-12-21T05:31:46Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > So ban the arguments if it’s that important. I _like_ it when people sign posts, for the reasons I mentioned above. I think people complaining about it are getting off on whinging: it’s literally impossible for me to think of a pettier complaint that I’ve ever heard, and I teach second graders all day long. (Seriously: this puts “Mr. Dorkness, Jim-Bob was staring at me” to shame). My God, I know! I felt the same way when everyone jumped on \*\*Shodan \*\*for it. 5, 6 ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/72 "2008-12-21T05:32:07Z")
> [@Westrogothia](#): > > The reason it is annoying is twofold. > First: It has no meaning to the readers, its an deliberate piece of static added to the channel. > Second: The reason it is put there by the writer is to make his/her adopted persona unique. While some posters make their postings unique by insight and wit, the signees have chosen the equivalent of throwing feces. Third: It makes us want to claw our fucking buckeyes out! Are we there, yet? Brown ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/73 "2008-12-21T05:32:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > So ban the arguments if it’s that important. I _like_ it when people sign posts, for the reasons I mentioned above. I think people complaining about it are getting off on whinging: it’s literally impossible for me to think of a pettier complaint that I’ve ever heard, and I teach second graders all day long. (Seriously: this puts “Mr. Dorkness, Jim-Bob was staring at me” to shame). I’d be all in favor of allowing you sig-happy folks to append a sig onto as many posts as you want, as long as they’re actually in a sig box, and therefore ignorable by whoever doesn’t want to see them. Unfortunately, adding sigs causes an extra tax on the hamsters… and they’re nearly run out as is. So we’ve got a group of overly whiny people complaining about something. In most circumstances, I’d totally be in the 'fuck ‘em’ camp. Except in this case, there’s a specific board rule against what you, Shodan, et. al. are doing. Rules aren’t meant to be broken. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/74 "2008-12-21T05:34:35Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > These interminable arguments, ferchrissake! Yeah, we should never have arguments on a message board. To **Czarcasm** , should we be reporting signatures in posts when we see them? I think this was asked earlier but has not been answered, to my knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/75 "2008-12-21T05:35:02Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > But we are only allowed to post the sig (which everyone can ignore) once per thread. This just has to be read with Jan Brady’s voice… ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/76 "2008-12-21T05:36:13Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I’d be all in favor of allowing you sig-happy folks to append a sig onto as many posts as you want, as long as they’re actually in a sig box, and therefore ignorable by whoever doesn’t want to see them. Unfortunately, adding sigs causes an extra tax on the hamsters… and they’re nearly run out as is. > > So we’ve got a group of overly whiny people complaining about something. In most circumstances, I’d totally be in the 'fuck ‘em’ camp. Except in this case, there’s a specific board rule against what you, Shodan, et. al. are doing. Rules aren’t meant to be broken. Except this is the Pit, where I am protesting against the rule itself. Especially the fact that it was unenforced until now. It’s like if the international community tried to prosecute Bush for the war crime of fighting a battle east/west. 5, 6 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/77 "2008-12-21T05:38:44Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > Except this is the Pit, where I am protesting against the rule itself. Especially the fact that it was unenforced until now. It’s like if the international community tried to prosecute Bush for the war crime of fighting a battle east/west. > > 5, > 6 And I believe you were politely asked to comply with said rule, and thanked in advance for doing so. No official warning, no abrupt threats. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/78 "2008-12-21T05:40:15Z")
nevermind… ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/79 "2008-12-21T05:46:37Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > But we are only allowed to post the sig (which everyone can ignore) once per thread. Or even better, we can ignore your sig altogether. See, now everyone’s happy. You get to preen and I get to be ignorant of your preening. Huh. I just realized right here on this board that sometimes ignorance is bliss. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/80 "2008-12-21T05:52:38Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Yeah, we should never have arguments on a message board. Sorry, I just happen to think this is a particularly inane argument. There’s valuable Pit space that could be used to call **Der Trihs** or **Liberal** or \*\*tomndebb \*\*fuckwits that’s being spent on this. > [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > Except this is the Pit, where I am protesting against the rule itself. Especially the fact that it was unenforced until now. It’s like if the international community tried to prosecute Bush for the war crime of fighting a battle east/west. No it’s not. There’s no law against fighting an east/west battle. It’d be like if you got a ticket for jaywalking. You know it’s a crime, but it’s not really a big deal. But if the cops’ attention is brought to it, they have a duty to crack down on it, and you have a duty to sit at the fucking crosswalk light and wait for it to change. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103.md?page=5)