# Vox? Valete? Globos meos lambe

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103 "2008-12-20T19:27:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/121 "2008-12-21T17:05:58Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> If you’re getting on folks nerves for doing something totally innocuous (using “they” as a gender-indeterminate single pronoun), then the folks complaining are the folks showing bad etiquette. Other things are in between.

Maybe, but if I participated on a Board where many many people expressed annoyance at my use of “they” as a gender-indeterminate single pronoun I would not use it. I am not so attached to my gender indeterminate single pronouns that I would choose to annoy people. I would think they are goofy but I would stop. I personally think minor spelling errors and typos are acceptable (though fun to make fun of sometimes) but people jumped on me enough about it so I started spell checking.\*

- I tempt the mighty smiting by Gaudere…with glee.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/122 "2008-12-21T17:07:07Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Maybe, but if I participated on a Board where many many people expressed annoyance at my use of “they” as a gender-indeterminate single pronoun I would not use it.

If others expressed that they thought it was all right, would that change your mind?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/123 "2008-12-21T17:16:06Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> If others expressed that they thought it was all right, would that change your mind?

I guess I would take into account how many came down on each side and how much it it bothered some people. But the critical factor for me is where the board moderators came down on the issue. A sig is a petty affectation, why the gnashing of teeth over not being allowed to include it? Even if you think the complaints are petty isn’t this turning into a battle of pettiness? I mean most of us will always append the “Daniel” to the end of all your posts anyway. If I were you I would be pissed at Vox, everything was going swimmingly with the occasional swipe at Shodan, until Vox came along.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/124 "2008-12-21T17:18:03Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> I’m not seeing where the confusion is. Could you provide some examples of what you mean?

Looking for examples, I noticed I actually add the Jim to the end far less often than I thought or use to. Usually for longer posts and rarely more than once per thread.

\*Examples: \*  
[Jim (Sorry for the ranting nature of this post.)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10597516&postcount=106)

[Jim](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10547269&postcount=26)(Yeah, I know, I’m have a rep for appearing if Jersey in mentioned.)

[Good Luck,  
Jim](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10475654&postcount=145)

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/125 "2008-12-21T17:28:31Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Looking for examples, I noticed I actually add the Jim to the end far less often than I thought or use to. Usually for longer posts and rarely more than once per thread.
> 
> \*Examples: \*  
> [Jim (Sorry for the ranting nature of this post.)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10597516&postcount=106)
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> [Jim](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10547269&postcount=26)(Yeah, I know, I’m have a rep for appearing if Jersey in mentioned.)
> 
> [Good Luck,  
> Jim](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10475654&postcount=145)

So why exactly can’t you drop the “Jim” and leave the rest?

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/126 "2008-12-21T17:42:59Z")

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> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> **sailor** , I most definitely did not open this thread. \*\*Buckeye \*\*here just got his panties in a twist.
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> **IP** , I’ve only been using it \*and \*posting the signature in the first post of a thread. **And then only because the stupid board software can’t handle a 4-line signature when it claims it can.**
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> \*\*LHoD \*\*and **What Exit**?, I agree.
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> And while I will abide by the mods’ ruling, I still say that those of you who can’t handle two lines of text at the bottom of a post are being \*far \*more petty and immature.

Because four lines of text is not a signature, it is an additional paragraph that pretty much adds nothing to the conversation. Hell, three lines is too many.

You stay classy San Diego,  
Ron Burgundy

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/127 "2008-12-21T18:00:03Z")

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Wow. Diane, hello!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/128 "2008-12-21T18:15:45Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> If I were you I would be pissed at Vox, everything was going swimmingly with the occasional swipe at Shodan, until Vox came along.

Believe me, I am.

As for why I’m worried about it: I know I’ll violate it unintentionally, since it’ll mean undoing 2 decades of habits, and it irritates me to be put in that situation for what I see as an absurdly trifling reason.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/129 "2008-12-21T18:16:00Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> Or even better, we can ignore your sig altogether. See, now everyone’s happy. You get to preen and I get to be ignorant of your preening.
> 
> Huh. I just realized right here on this board that sometimes ignorance is bliss. Go figure.

We’re happy to fight your ignorance on ignorance.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/130 "2008-12-21T18:20:28Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> So why exactly can’t you drop the “Jim” and leave the rest?

Well it looks like I have been getting out of the habit, but why in hell does it bug you. Especially in **Left Hand of Dorkness** ’s case where it is only 2 extra lines? I can’t imagine how it impacts your reading of the board.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/131 "2008-12-21T18:41:35Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Wow. Diane, hello!

Hiya! 😃

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/132 "2008-12-21T18:47:28Z")

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> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> And then only because the stupid board software can’t handle a 4-line signature when it claims it can.

This is a serious question and not in any way intended to taunt you:  
Why do you want a four or even three line sig? What purpose would it serve?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/133 "2008-12-21T18:53:59Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Well it looks like I have been getting out of the habit, but why in hell does it bug you. Especially in **Left Hand of Dorkness** ’s case where it is only 2 extra lines? I can’t imagine how it impacts your reading of the board.

Well, yours changes. It’s the static ones that bug me. And the ones that have a tone that’s incongruous with that of the post as often happens with Regards and Enjoy. I just don’t understand why those who wish to keep the same message every time can’t just put it in the sig file. But whatever.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/134 "2008-12-21T19:05:47Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Well, yours changes. It’s the static ones that bug me. And the ones that have a tone that’s incongruous with that of the post as often happens with Regards and Enjoy. I just don’t understand why those who wish to keep the same message every time can’t just put it in the sig file. But whatever.

I dunno. The enjoy one adds a nice bit of irony to flames. See for example:  
Your mother is the whore that fucked a baboon to produce someone as ugly as you you smelly rotten ass licker  
Enjoy,  
tao

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/135 "2008-12-21T19:09:19Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> I dunno. The enjoy one adds a nice bit of irony to flames. See for example:  
> Your mother is the whore that fucked a baboon to produce someone as ugly as you you smelly rotten ass licker  
> Enjoy,  
> tao

Well, sure, it’s funny the first time But that sort of humor gets old fast.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/136 "2008-12-21T19:12:56Z")

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Reading this thread is like watching two spastics trying to beat the shit out of each other, after all the humour value has worn off.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/137 "2008-12-21T19:14:19Z")

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It sometimes amazes me how whiney and petulant the people on this board can be.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/138 "2008-12-21T19:38:25Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Tan](#):
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> > [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> > And then only because the stupid board software can’t handle a 4-line signature when it claims it can.
> 
> This is a serious question and not in any way intended to taunt you:  
> Why do you want a four or even three line sig? What purpose would it serve?

I believe that any blank lines in the signature count against the four-line limit. I just tested this and was successfully able to record a signature consisting entirely of:  
Line 1  
Line 2  
Line 3  
Line 4

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/139 "2008-12-21T19:43:25Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> It sometimes amazes me how whiney and petulant the people on this board can be.

So, you don’t get out much then?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vox-valete-globos-meos-lambe/478103/140 "2008-12-21T20:18:35Z")

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On the contrary. I work as a customer service representative, and my client is one the five largest retailers in the country. The behavior in this thread is easily on par with some of the idiots I have to deal with daily, both colleagues and customers alike.

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