# VP choices - not who but when?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 11, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074 "2016-06-11T01:56:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/1 "2016-06-11T01:56:53Z")

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Now that Clinton and Trump have both clinched the nomination and except for DC the primaries are all over, when will each announce their selection for VP?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/2 "2016-06-11T02:08:30Z")

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6/10: All the tea leaves are saying Clinton will announce Sanders next week. He’s old, but will last thru November. He will balance the ticket with Clinton/Rockefeller Republicans and Wobblies. Trump won’t know what hit him.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/3 "2016-06-11T03:03:33Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> 6/10: All the tea leaves are saying Clinton will announce Sanders next week. He’s old, but will last thru November. He will balance the ticket with Clinton/Rockefeller Republicans and Wobblies. Trump won’t know what hit him.

Where are you buying your tea?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/4 "2016-06-11T03:06:23Z")

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Shouldn’t be a long wait. The conventions are next month. So at most, a month.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/5 "2016-06-11T04:36:17Z")

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Trump might jump the gun, but my money’s on Hillary not announcing until the convention.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/6 "2016-06-11T04:43:38Z")

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At the convention? that’s generally not done. Would be a bit out of character for her to do something unusual like that.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/7 "2016-06-11T04:57:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> At the convention? that’s generally not done. Would be a bit out of character for her to do something unusual like that.

That’s when Reagan did it, isn’t it?

Besides…just how certain is Clinton about “her” superdelegates?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/8 "2016-06-11T05:16:02Z")

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That was a situation where Reagan was exploring the Ford possibility and the negotiations just went on and on and on.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/9 "2016-06-11T12:26:35Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Where are you buying your tea?

I think there’s some confusion over leafy products.

Part of the timing decision is to try to control the news cycle.

Clinton’s best windows could be almost right after Trump announces his, or right after the GOP convention to get the news cycle onto the Democratic one as soon as possible. Unless it a very boring one (not a bad decision per se boring but it does not control the cycle as much).

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/10 "2016-06-11T12:34:20Z")

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A lot depends on who it is too. If it’s a blockbuster pick like Warren, she could even announce during Trump’s speech.

If it’s Tom Vilsack or Tim Kaine then it won’t make a huge splash but it will buy some positive press on a slow news day. I recall that Biden was announced a few days before the DNC and it wasn’t meant to make a huge splash or step on anything the McCain campaign was doing.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/11 "2016-06-11T12:39:49Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> At the convention? that’s generally not done. Would be a bit out of character for her to do something unusual like that.

Dan Quayle was announced by George H.W. Bush on the second day of the Republican convention.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/12 "2016-06-11T12:43:19Z")

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Must have been his 20th choice.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/13 "2016-06-11T16:45:14Z")

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What if Trump and Clinton both try to wait for the other one to announce their pick first?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/14 "2016-06-11T17:04:17Z")

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It won’t happen since the Republican convention is before the Democratic one. The party out of power goes first.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/15 "2016-06-11T19:00:59Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> That’s when Reagan did it, isn’t it?
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> Besides…just how certain is Clinton about “her” superdelegates?

She needs roughly 180 of 719 supers to vote for her, and she currently has 582 endorsing her. So barring a catastrophe, she’s in.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/16 "2016-06-11T19:32:14Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Besides…just how certain is Clinton about “her” superdelegates?

Hmm absolutely certain? what are you getting at here?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/17 "2016-06-23T00:48:32Z")

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Bumping as we are now within 4 weeks of the GOP convention and the Democratic one follows its close by just a few days …

So when will they each announce their VP choices?

My guess -

Trump could hold off until the convention itself and I can’t see him doing it any earlier than a few days before it. If so Clinton will wait to announce until the small window between the GOP convention close and the Democratic convention open, so just two days before the Democratic convention opens, squashing any attention on Trump’s show right off.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/18 "2016-06-23T01:51:12Z")

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Supposedly Trump wants to wait till the convention to maximize coverage of that event. Though I guess if enough delegates are making noises about blocking his nomination, he might end up going early and announcing someone he thinks will shore up his GOP support.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/19 "2016-06-23T03:14:15Z")

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That’s assuming he can find someone, of course.

[Trump’s performance raises hard question: Who’d want to be his VP?](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-vice-president-224488#ixzz4CMugpizX)

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> Donald Trump’s performance the past month — the countless controversies and continual taunts of the GOP establishment — is dramatically narrowing his options for vice president.
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> With the Republican convention a month away and Trump approaching a critical decision on his No. 2, each week crosses more names off the list. Trump has bashed star Republican Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico and ignored the advice of senators like Bob Corker of Tennessee, who might have brought valuable foreign policy and congressional experience to the ticket. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has ruled out the post (even as he reconsiders running for reelection), while South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst — both well-regarded GOP figures who might improve Trump’s dismal standing among women and minorities — have all but done the same.  
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> John Weaver, who served as the campaign strategist for Kasich’s presidential bid, was more blunt: “I can’t imagine a truly credible person agreeing to be his running mate, because it would be the end of his or her political career.”

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-choices-not-who-but-when/757074/20 "2016-06-23T03:25:33Z")

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“I can’t imagine a truly credible person agreeing to be his running mate …"

There are several who would jump at the chance - Gingrich, Sessions, Christie … Acch, but they nae be true credible persons …

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