# VP debate (Oct 7)- Is there a watch/follow-along thread?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 8, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459 "2020-10-08T00:45:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/61 "2020-10-08T01:31:56Z")

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Pence needs to watch his body language. Sometimes he nods his head to what Harris is saying.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/62 "2020-10-08T01:32:11Z")

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Was that when all the folks from those planes were clustered together is one small waiting area?

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/63 "2020-10-08T01:32:41Z")

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It’s amazing how much better Pence is at this than Trump.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/64 "2020-10-08T01:33:03Z")

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What the fuck, he’s calling the 8 years of Obama “the slowest recovery” like he’s only counting the first 12 or 18 months of Obama’s presidency. From like 2010 to 2016 the economy was fucking skyrocketing by the metrics that rich people like to convince us are important.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/65 "2020-10-08T01:33:10Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> It’s amazing how much better Pence is at this than Trump.

He went to Serious White Man School.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/66 "2020-10-08T01:33:44Z")

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“We literally spared no expense to help the American people get through this” - TRUMP JUST LITERALLY SAID TO STOP NEGOTIATING FOR A RELIEF BILL

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/67 "2020-10-08T01:34:34Z")

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“Mr. Vice President, I’m speaking.”

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/68 "2020-10-08T01:35:33Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> It’s amazing how much better Pence is at this than Trump.

Republicans have no one but themselves to blame. If they’d removed from office during impeachment proceedings, they could have had the blighter at the top of their ticket. He’s a liar of an order as bad as Trump – but the way he delivers his lies make them seem more palatable.

Pence is getting rattled, though. Guess Harris doesn’t respond to his BS like “Mother.”

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/69 "2020-10-08T01:35:45Z")

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When Trump’s taxes came up Pence said that Trump is a job creator that creates a lot of payroll tax revenue. Payroll tax that’s paid by the workers. He’s bragging that Trump gives other people the opportunity to pay their taxes. Unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/70 "2020-10-08T01:36:09Z")

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She shouldn’t have allowed him to interrupt like that. IMO she should have immediately turned the whole debate into showcase for how rude he is being.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/71 "2020-10-08T01:36:11Z")

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I think Pence may actually have a point here. Is Biden planning to roll back the entire Trump tax cuts (which included a meager amount of relief for non-rich people) or just the portions that affect the rich and corporations? Her statements that he’ll reverse the Trump tax cuts (in their entirety) and that he won’t raise taxes for anyone under 400k seem to be in conflict.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/72 "2020-10-08T01:37:07Z")

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I’m depressingly convinced that nobody even considering voting Trump/Pence has _any idea whatsoever_ how many half-truths and lies of omission have come from Pence … so far.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/73 "2020-10-08T01:37:14Z")

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Susan sucks at this.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/74 "2020-10-08T01:38:13Z")

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When did Joe Biden do and say that?

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/75 "2020-10-08T01:38:28Z")

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That’s trivially easy to answer - pass a new tax bill that repeals Trump’s cuts and puts on new rates that raise for the rich and stay the same (or go down) for everyone else.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/76 "2020-10-08T01:38:29Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I’m depressingly convinced that nobody even considering voting Trump/Pence has _any idea whatsoever_ how many half-truths and lies of omission have come from Pence … so far.

One of Pence’s responses was a Gish Gallop worthy of Trump.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/77 "2020-10-08T01:39:02Z")

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Pence refusing to answer the question about climate change.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/78 "2020-10-08T01:39:13Z")

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From all the mentions, I think Pence has nightmares of a Green New Deal and thinks it’s the worst thing ever to happen.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/79 "2020-10-08T01:39:37Z")

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One ?

I was hoping that Harris would simply look into the camera and say, “Y’all need to fact check everything he just said.”

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debate-oct-7-is-there-a-watch-follow-along-thread/922459/80 "2020-10-08T01:39:45Z")

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We’re listening to science!

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