# VP Debates Thread, or "Beauty and the Beast" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649 "2004-10-05T15:08:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/181 "2004-10-06T02:06:45Z")
Sub-s corp charge. Cheney is citing Rush? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/182 "2004-10-06T02:06:55Z")
Haliburton! ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/183 "2004-10-06T02:07:19Z")
Now it’s who avoided more taxes. What does this have to do with health care? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/184 "2004-10-06T02:07:29Z")
He brought up loopholes. Figured that would happen sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/185 "2004-10-06T02:07:38Z")
Ooh, Cheney brought up the Rush Limbaugh slander. What a sleazeball. ---
**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/186 "2004-10-06T02:07:39Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Damn, this mod really asks penetrating questions. Wow. > > -XT > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I know. It’s a shame that they go unanswered. Gwen Iffle (I think the spelling on her last name.) She’s a co-anchor on the Leher News Hour. She’s great. You people should watch the News Hour more. Actual issues being discussed in a much deeper depth with actual facts, reasonable opinions and sincere investigation. Good show, good stuff. Their guests are better at talking about this stuff on the show normally. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/187 "2004-10-06T02:08:42Z")
> [@presidebt](#): > > Sub-s corp charge. Cheney is citing Rush? WTF? Cheney starts singing _Working Man_, I’m outta here. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/188 "2004-10-06T02:09:11Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Damn, this mod really asks penetrating questions. Wow. > > -XT Agree. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/189 "2004-10-06T02:09:22Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > I know. It’s a shame that they go unanswered. I just want the mods to know that I am not also brainglutton. Please do not ban me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/190 "2004-10-06T02:09:46Z")
IOW, Bush doesn’t give a fuck about AIDS and hasn’t done shit because he doesn’t want his base to think he’s soft on homos. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/191 "2004-10-06T02:09:51Z")
Chaney is flailing about AIDS…I think that question caught him by surprise. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/192 "2004-10-06T02:10:57Z")
Edwards is just dodging it and talking about Africa and health care. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/193 "2004-10-06T02:11:04Z")
I’m getting “server too busy” at [factcheck.org](http://factcheck.org)😃 ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/194 "2004-10-06T02:11:14Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Chaney is flailing about AIDS…I think that question caught him by surprise. > > -XT Looks like neither of them did. They both flailed, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/195 "2004-10-06T02:11:33Z")
Sorry folks. Seated debates are dull as dirt. 99.5% of the United States has changed the channel. I see no winner on the Cartoon Network. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/196 "2004-10-06T02:11:41Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Completely disagree…IMHO. 🙂 I think that they are neck and neck…but I think Chaney might be just a bit ahead on points. I think Cheney is dead wrong. I think almost everything he’s said so far should be enough to make any voter reconsider if they’re republicans. But I have to agree that he’s been stronger so far. I thought Edwards would school him, but Cheney is doing very well. Apart from, you know, being completely wrong about almost everything. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/197 "2004-10-06T02:12:23Z")
> [@presidebt](#): > > Looks like neither of them did. They both flailed, IMO. Er, that’s _looks like both were surprised_. And neither was prepared. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/198 "2004-10-06T02:12:31Z")
said by Gwen. > [@](#): > > So scooter, how does being an eight year old qualify you to be vice president, and will it affect your studies of the multiplication tables ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/199 "2004-10-06T02:12:43Z")
Wait, no health care = get AIDS? I thought some hanky panky was sometimes involved too. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/200 "2004-10-06T02:12:48Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Yes, of course, but what is EDWARDS wearing? 😕 The debate is not being transmitted in HDTV, or I’d have a better answer for you, but it looks like a silver square with rounded corners, surrounding a similar shape in black. I can’t make out any writing, signs, or symbols. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=11)