# VP Debates Thread, or "Beauty and the Beast" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649 "2004-10-05T15:08:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Hedda\_Rosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hedda_rosa/32/1204_2.png) [@Hedda\_Rosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hedda_Rosa)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/201 "2004-10-06T02:13:10Z")
“What qualifies you to be a heartbeat away?” Classic! I’m gonna drink to that! (and I’m a Kerry supporter) ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/202 "2004-10-06T02:13:18Z")
> [@Patty O'Furniture](#): > > I’m getting “server too busy” at [factcheck.org](http://factcheck.org)😃 well, _that_ could be a republican conspiracy. Easy enough. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/203 "2004-10-06T02:13:19Z")
the lower side of the 6th ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/204 "2004-10-06T02:13:29Z")
The Experience question. Ooooooh! Tell the truth! In politics? Sounds nice but I am a cynic. Dammit Edwards! Don’t just say “we have a plan!” Oh, he got one in - “a long resume does not equal good judgement”. Nice recovery. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/205 "2004-10-06T02:13:44Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > I thought Edwards would school him, but Cheney is doing very well. Apart from, you know, being completely wrong about almost everything. 🙂 That was an interesting question to Edwards about his experience. Edwards handled it well. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/206 "2004-10-06T02:14:04Z")
It looks like Edwards is wearing one of the heart plugs from Dune. Any minute now Cheney is going to yank it out and float away laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/207 "2004-10-06T02:14:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > An Illuminati symbol? That was my first thought as well (obviously!!!), but it [doesn’t seem to be the case!](http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1259.cfm) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/208 "2004-10-06T02:14:32Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > the lower side of the 6th I’ve always admired your posts. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/209 "2004-10-06T02:14:54Z")
Didn’t Bush ask Cheney to “sign on” as VP after Cheney, as head of the VP selection committee. recommeded himself? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/210 "2004-10-06T02:15:41Z")
> [@presidebt](#): > > Whoa! “Thank you for your comments on my daughter and family.” “That’s it?” “That’s it.” Sacrificing the rest of the 90 seconds… Cheney really can’t say anymore on the subject since he actually disagrees with his “boss” on this matter. It was a good move on his part to let further discussion pass. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/211 "2004-10-06T02:15:48Z")
Do we have to drink when Edwards brings up Vietnam, or does that just work when Kerry says it? ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/212 "2004-10-06T02:15:56Z")
Moderator: “Senator Edwards: You have the least qualifications of the last 10 people nominated to be VP. What do you say to that?” Edwards: “I support the American family.” In fairness, though, that was a tough one to answer well. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/213 "2004-10-06T02:16:30Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > It looks like Edwards is wearing one of the heart plugs from Dune. Any minute now Cheney is going to yank it out and float away laughing. That bit of genius had me laughing out loud. Good one 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/214 "2004-10-06T02:16:36Z")
I agree that Cheney _seems_ to be doing well but that’s only because he’s not letting himself be encumbered by facts. He’s just blithely lying his way through every answer. It seems like he’s making points when he’s actually just making stuff up out of his asshole. I have no doubt that the media will spin this as a draw if not a slight win for cheney, but that’s only because the media is extremely pro-Bush and will never check Cheney’s facts. Anyone with any brains or conscience should be able to see the evil radiating off of Cheney in waves, though. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/215 "2004-10-06T02:17:13Z")
It’s a lot more entertaining if you just imagine them saying “and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom” after each statement. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/216 "2004-10-06T02:17:52Z")
> [@sugaree](#): > > It’s a lot more entertaining if you just imagine them saying “and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom” after each statement. 😃 BRILLIANT!! ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/217 "2004-10-06T02:18:31Z")
**Get your hands off your chin - we can’t hear you, doofus!** ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/218 "2004-10-06T02:18:31Z")
9/11. drink. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/219 "2004-10-06T02:19:03Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > I’ve always admired your posts. > 😃 Awww…I bet you say that to all the male posters. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/220 "2004-10-06T02:19:30Z")
> [@sugaree](#): > > It’s a lot more entertaining if you just imagine them saying “and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom” after each statement. Snicker. Go ahead, vote for a third party. Throw your vote away! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=12)