# VP Debates Thread, or "Beauty and the Beast" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649 "2004-10-05T15:08:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/161 "2004-10-06T01:59:43Z")
Cheney is just wearing an American flag pin, folks. I have one right on my shelf that I wore on 9/11/04. Many people had them too. Good questions on gay marriage. And Cheney behaved himself during the reference to his daughter. Classy to thank Edwards for his reference. Has the Constitution ever been used to restrict a right? (besides making likker). I’m watching CSPAN-2 and neither has done anything really strange when the camera isn’t on him. Oooh, trial lawyer time. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/162 "2004-10-06T01:59:48Z")
Edwards better get off the soapbox and start working with the facts, instead of the “what should be”, or he will lose. Cheney is a better debater so far. ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/163 "2004-10-06T02:00:11Z")
Whoa! “Thank you for your comments on my daughter and family.” “That’s it?” “That’s it.” Sacrificing the rest of the 90 seconds… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/164 "2004-10-06T02:00:35Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Cheney fidgets and smarms while standing, but looks contemplative while seated. Oh, he’s fidgeting plenty. They should’ve made them both wear handcuffs. Just because. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/165 "2004-10-06T02:00:43Z")
Damn, this mod really asks penetrating questions. Wow. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/166 "2004-10-06T02:01:33Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Damn, this mod really asks penetrating questions. Wow. > > -XT I know. It’s a shame that they go unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/167 "2004-10-06T02:01:51Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Cheney is just wearing an American flag pin, folks. I have one right on my shelf that I wore on 9/11/04. Many people had them too. Yes, of course, but what is EDWARDS wearing? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/168 "2004-10-06T02:03:05Z")
Cheney’s getting raped, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/169 "2004-10-06T02:03:16Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Yes, of course, but what is EDWARDS wearing? 😕 YES!!! Some of arcane relic? A symbol of an ancient Demon-God? A _Stargate SG1_ pin? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/170 "2004-10-06T02:03:20Z")
Edwards had to answer the “trial lawyer” thing eventually . . . and I think he’s doing it pretty well! (Of course, I’m a lawyer myself, I’m biased.) ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/171 "2004-10-06T02:03:22Z")
“The mod” has a name: [Gwen Ifill.](http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/aroundthetable/ifill.html) Hostess of _Washington Week in Review_ and very cool. They both smirk the same way, with the same side of the mouth! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/172 "2004-10-06T02:03:42Z")
So far, IMO, Edwards is doing better on the lawsuit issue. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/173 "2004-10-06T02:04:14Z")
I do hope Edwards brought up the Florida senate race. Martinez, handpicked by Bushco, is a trial lawyer. I guess it only counts if you are a demmie though. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/174 "2004-10-06T02:04:19Z")
> [@DtC](#): > > Cheney’s getting raped, IMO. Completely disagree…IMHO. 🙂 I think that they are neck and neck…but I think Chaney might be just a bit ahead on points. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/175 "2004-10-06T02:04:37Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > They both smirk the same way, with the same side of the mouth! :eek: John, I am your Father… NOOOO!!! > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Cheney’s getting raped, IMO. I am _shocked_ that you would think that. _Shocked_, I tell you. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/176 "2004-10-06T02:04:54Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Twins 2…dankees 0 Dear God man! Can’t you EVER stay on topic! What INNING is it for chrissake! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/177 "2004-10-06T02:05:31Z")
Edwards is doing well on the ‘Trial Lawyer’ thing. -XT ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/178 "2004-10-06T02:05:47Z")
[QUOTE=MehitabelThey both smirk the same way, with the same side of the mouth! :eek:[/QUOTE] It’s called choreography. If you dig it now, just wait for the finale with the big kickdance! “I wanna be a part of it, New York, New York . . .” ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/179 "2004-10-06T02:05:50Z")
I dunno–Edwards, there’s plenty of doctors leaving practices because of malpractice insurance rates. Especially in rural areas. I’d love for you to address it more directly. Cheney is taking notes like crazy. Good way to attack Edwards without attacking Edwards. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649/180 "2004-10-06T02:06:08Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > YES!!! Some of arcane relic? A symbol of an ancient Demon-God? A _Stargate SG1_ pin? An Illuminati symbol? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vp-debates-thread-or-beauty-and-the-beast/267649.md?page=10)