# Vulgarity? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 13, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740 "2017-10-13T17:25:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/61 "2017-10-14T22:08:27Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > So what? The urban dictionary is going to give you the answer that you knew you were looking for, as opposed to the actual usages that might apply. How, exactly, does the UD know what definition I’m looking for? I mean, that sounds like an Amazing Kreskin type of trick. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/62 "2017-10-14T22:37:15Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > You mean like, _ **anything** _… When correctly viewed, everything is lewd. Or, _nothing_. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/63 "2017-10-14T23:07:51Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How, exactly, does the UD know what definition I’m looking for? I mean, that sounds like an Amazing Kreskin type of trick. As best as I can tell, the UD is a cite that appeals to college frat boys. The only time I ever use it is when young people are talking and using phrases that I’m not familiar with. This is the same cite that educates people on phrases like what a “Dirty Sanchez” is or a “Donkey Punch” etc… Not a cite I would be using to defend my argument. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/64 "2017-10-14T23:13:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How, exactly, does the UD know what definition I’m looking for? I mean, that sounds like an Amazing Kreskin type of trick. You have a failure with the subjects and objects here. **You** knew what definition **you** were looking for. UD is defaulted to a sex or drug connotation, because it’s the street use of any phrase, old or new and that is their business model. I’m only somewhat street and not fully street. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/65 "2017-10-15T00:07:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How, exactly, does the UD know what definition I’m looking for? I mean, that sounds like an Amazing Kreskin type of trick. I do take heart that you identify as “urban” Cool. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/66 "2017-10-15T00:13:03Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > You have a failure with the subjects and objects here. **You** knew what definition **you** were looking for. > > UD is defaulted to a sex or drug connotation, because it’s the street use of any phrase, old or new and that is their business model. I’m only somewhat street and not fully street. You are dealing with quantum mechanics before wave collapse applied to linguistics. Every possible meaning is what you must mean. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/67 "2017-10-15T00:27:15Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > When correctly viewed, everything is lewd. Or, _nothing_. Hey! That could be a hit, Lehrerian though it is. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/68 "2017-10-15T01:51:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > 1. That if you believed the posts to be “obscene vulgar shit,” then you shouldn’t have used the phrase back at him. This is a very poor argument for a mod to make and you’ve done it twice in the thread. The phase is either against the rules or it is not. Or are you posting as a member and the “tu quoque” fallacy is not mod policy? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/69 "2017-10-15T02:01:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You are dealing with quantum mechanics before wave collapse applied to linguistics. Every possible meaning is what you must mean. I think it’s more like squat mechanics. All meaning devolves to things people do while squatting. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/70 "2017-10-15T02:06:35Z")
* * * If you’re an anonymous person on the internet why does a minority opinion secondary meaning attach to you as if you were, a millennial say? What if I’m not? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/71 "2017-10-15T02:08:02Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > So what? The point is, the phrase can and is used in a way that has a sexual context. Now you know, and you leaned that without anything going on your permanent record. I love authoritarian talk. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/72 "2017-10-15T02:57:39Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > This is a very poor argument for a mod to make and you’ve done it twice in the thread. The phase is either against the rules or it is not. > > Or are you posting as a member and the “tu quoque” fallacy is not mod policy? It’s not poor - it’s true. If a poster believes something to be obscene and vulgar to the point of rule violations they should not also engage in the same. It is assumed that folks attempt to avoid rule violations so to the extent that a poster parrots similar phrasing then it’s reasonable to deduce that the poster doesn’t find the phrasing to be a rule violation. That is independent of whether it is actually a rule violation. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/73 "2017-10-15T03:44:42Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > This is a very poor argument for a mod to make and you’ve done it twice in the thread. The phase is either against the rules or it is not. My point of course is that it is not for posters to decide whether something is against the rules or not. If they have a problem with a post, then they should notify the mods to make the call. Whatever the case, in no circumstances is poster entitled to retaliate because they believe someone else’s post is against the rules. It should be obvious that if a poster believes a post to be against the rules, the last thing they should do is violate the same rule. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/74 "2017-10-15T04:26:52Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > My point of course is that it is not for posters to decide whether something is against the rules or not. If they have a problem with a post, then they should notify the mods to make the call. Whatever the case, in no circumstances is poster entitled to retaliate because they believe someone else’s post is against the rules. It should be obvious that if a poster believes a post to be against the rules, the last thing they should do is violate the same rule. I think posters might want to point out that the whole thread had lots of abuse and invective in it. So much so that the tone of the conversation is shifted, and you can forget that there is a rule, against say, being rude and get caught up in defending yourself. But the message you are sending, the foul abuse being beneath notice, and then the labeling of it as hot and bothered being a warning, is incoherent. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/75 "2017-10-15T05:04:44Z")
Take a look at the pro gun posts in the thread and tell me they’re not hot and bothered about something. I’m slightly hot and bothered right now, about lots of things,and not sexually. In fact: is anyone here saying I’m being sexually charged up because I am and admit it? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/76 "2017-10-15T05:18:08Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > and you can forget that there is a rule, against say, being rude and get caught up in defending yourself. The point is that no, you can’t. If you do you may be warned. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/77 "2017-10-15T05:20:13Z")
tmsidk ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/78 "2017-10-15T05:32:58Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I don’t think it’s an age thing, because I’m almost 60, and while I am aware of the sexual definition, it’s generally meant “upset and pissed off” to me. Then I think you mean it might be an age thing. The sexual meaning is, from all I can tell, the more recent one. I’m 42, and it means both to me, depending on context. **drad dog** ’s context is so obviously meaning “angry” that I don’t understand how anyone could possibly interpret it as a sexual one. My guess is that younger people are perhaps unaware of the “angry” definition (although it’s there too on Urbandictionary if you look down). At least that’s what it looks like to me. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/79 "2017-10-15T05:40:55Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Then I think you mean it might be an age thing. The sexual meaning is, from all I can tell, the more recent one. I’m 42, and it means both to me, depending on context. **drad dog** ’s context is so obviously meaning “angry” that I don’t understand how anyone could possibly interpret it as a sexual one. My guess is that younger people are perhaps unaware of the “angry” definition (although it’s there too on Urbandictionary if you look down). At least that’s what it looks like to me. Get off my lawn! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/80 "2017-10-15T14:11:23Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Then I think you mean it might be an age thing. The sexual meaning is, from all I can tell, the more recent one. I’m 42, and it means both to me, depending on context. **drad dog** ’s context is so obviously meaning “angry” that I don’t understand how anyone could possibly interpret it as a sexual one. My guess is that younger people are perhaps unaware of the “angry” definition (although it’s there too on Urbandictionary if you look down). At least that’s what it looks like to me. When insults are flying, I don’t see how you can say it’s “obvious” that the sexual connotation of those insults are not intended. The mods get a lot of flack when they act as mind readers, so perhaps it’s best not expect them to read too much between the lines. In which case posters are best advised not to use negatively charged phrases, directed at other posters, that can have a sexual interpretation. Wouldn’t you say? And, aa keeps getting mentioned, it was just a mod note. What’s the worst thing that comes from that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740.md?page=5)