# Vulgarity? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 13, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740 "2017-10-13T17:25:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/81 "2017-10-15T14:35:56Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I think it’s more scatological (fecal) than sexual, but your mileage may vary. It seems like the OP has confused accusing someone of pulling something out of their ass with telling them to shove something up it. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/82 "2017-10-15T15:02:33Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When insults are flying, I don’t see how you can say it’s “obvious” that the sexual connotation of those insults are not intended. The mods get a lot of flack when they act as mind readers, so perhaps it’s best not expect them to read too much between the lines. In which case posters are best advised not to use negatively charged phrases, directed at other posters, that can have a sexual interpretation. Wouldn’t you say? > > And, aa keeps getting mentioned, it was just a mod note. What’s the worst thing that comes from that? Nothing, I just think it’s stupid. So be it. If somebody is hot and bothered about the phrase “hot and bothered,” I may soon be jumping on the PC-has-run-amok bandwagon after defending it for decades. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/83 "2017-10-15T15:11:17Z")
And, yes, I note the irony. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/84 "2017-10-15T16:19:36Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > It seems like the OP has confused accusing someone of pulling something out of their ass with telling them to shove something up it. There might be a big distinction between those two for you. But for me it seems like a half dozen of one… Tell you what. Go out and approach someone and tell them they’re pulling something out of their ass, and see if they take it as platonic. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/85 "2017-10-15T16:28:20Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When insults are flying, I don’t see how you can say it’s “obvious” that the sexual connotation of those insults are not intended. The mods get a lot of flack when they act as mind readers, so perhaps it’s best not expect them to read too much between the lines. In which case posters are best advised not to use negatively charged phrases, directed at other posters, that can have a sexual interpretation. Wouldn’t you say? > > And, aa keeps getting mentioned, it was just a mod note. What’s the worst thing that comes from that? “When insults are flying” Ah yes, the fog of war. That’s exactly when you need to interpret all things as _ **sexual** _. Because: You have to!??? If it’s not “obvious” that they were intended innocently, then the answer must be by default: “Get him.” It’s the way of the gun I suppose. Yet isn’t that exactly when a mod is supposed to look at the context, and maybe refrain to single out a poster for responding at the tail end of a chain of abuse, with an ambiguous phrase. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/86 "2017-10-15T16:37:24Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The point is that no, you can’t. If you do you may be warned. So in absorbing the repeated abusive accusations that I was pulling things out of my ass, I forgot about the rudeness rule for a second, and said something that had more than one meaning according to Urban Dictionary. I wonder how on earth could I have forgotten that rule. And that gave you an opening to just about be accurate in saying there is an interpretation of it that is sexual and a rule violation? Can’t be a proud day. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/87 "2017-10-15T18:28:15Z")
Here. [Point to the sexual definition here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_out_of_one%27s_ass#English). Go ahead. We can wait. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/88 "2017-10-15T18:50:55Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > “When insults are flying” Ah yes, the fog of war. That’s exactly when you need to interpret all things as _ **sexual** _. Because: You have to!??? I guess it’s a good think I didn’t say that, then, isn’t it? > [@](#): > > If it’s not “obvious” that they were intended innocently, then the answer must be by default: “Get him.” Giving someone a mod note is not “getting him”. It’s simply a reminder. > [@](#): > > It’s the way of the gun I suppose. Mod notes = guns? > [@](#): > > Yet isn’t that exactly when a mod is supposed to look at the context, and maybe refrain to single out a poster for responding at the tail end of a chain of abuse, with an ambiguous phrase. It was a mod note. No need to get all hot… under the collar… about it. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/89 "2017-10-15T20:13:07Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Here. > > [Point to the sexual definition here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_out_of_one%27s_ass#English). Go ahead. We can wait. Go try it out in the world. I’ll wait. Do you have a place of work? Do you know what is considered sexually suggestive at your work place? Haven’t been through any trainings this century? I do remember being on a grand jury once and covering a similar territory too. It’s not obscure knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/90 "2017-10-15T20:20:08Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I guess it’s a good think I didn’t say that, then, isn’t it? > Giving someone a mod note is not “getting him”. It’s simply a reminder. > Mod notes = guns? > > It was a mod note. No need to get all hot… under the collar… about it. I noticed in the thread that it was almost de rigeur to make violent imagery and invective part of the response to any progressive thought. There are no _ **reminders** _ for anyone to act cool in the gun threads because the tone is set by the abuse and the crudity and the mods don’t want to interfere. But they aren’t scared of me so, go to town. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/91 "2017-10-15T20:25:09Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Go try it out in the world. I’ll wait. > > Do you have a place of work? Do you know what is considered sexually suggestive at your work place? Haven’t been through any trainings this century? > > I do remember being on a grand jury once and covering a similar territory too. It’s not obscure knowledge. Yeah, it’s not. Which is why it’s weird that you have such a complete misunderstanding of it, that is so bizarrely unrelated to the use of the term by literally every single other person on the face of the Earth. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/92 "2017-10-15T20:39:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I guess it’s a good think I didn’t say that, then, isn’t it? > Giving someone a mod note is not “getting him”. It’s simply a reminder. > Mod notes = guns? > > It was a mod note. No need to get all hot… under the collar… about it. > [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Yeah, it’s not. > > Which is why it’s weird that you have such a complete misunderstanding of it, that is so bizarrely unrelated to the use of the term by literally every single other person on the face of the Earth. Can you read the post before you write at least? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/93 "2017-10-15T21:11:08Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Here. > > [Point to the sexual definition here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_out_of_one%27s_ass#English). Go ahead. We can wait. My position on it was that it was offensive, whether it describes an actual act or not. I didn’t say anything to characterize it until after I had been warned. But it is considered sexual for our modern standards of interaction, in politer areas, because harassment is a more modern concern. Go to your HR dept and ask them what’s sexual. Now tell me why you are so interested in litigating this again? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/94 "2017-10-15T21:19:41Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > But it is considered sexual for our modern standards of interaction No. It. Fucking. Isn’t. You have already been given a cite to that point. You have, conversely, not provided anything aside from your own disproven opinion. ‘Don’t pull shit out of your ass’ has never been considered sexual harassment. If it was, you could cite it. But, you can’t. Because it isn’t. Because there’s nothing even vaguely sexual about it. It means BULLSHITTING. You know where shit comes from right? The _ass_. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/95 "2017-10-15T21:39:04Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > No. It. Fucking. Isn’t. > > You have already been given a cite to that point. > > You have, conversely, not provided anything aside from your own disproven opinion. > > ‘Don’t pull shit out of your ass’ has never been considered sexual harassment. If it was, you could cite it. > > But, you can’t. Because it isn’t. Because there’s nothing even vaguely sexual about it. It means BULLSHITTING. > > You know where shit comes from right? The _ass_. So you don’t work anywhere? Some kind of Trust fund? You’re full of it. The world changed since you looked outside last. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740/96 "2017-10-15T21:48:53Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > So you don’t work anywhere? Some kind of Trust fund? > > You’re full of it. The world changed since you looked outside last. Given that this has degenerated into personal squabbling, and the questions concerning moderation have been answered, I’m going to close this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vulgarity/798740.md?page=4)