# Wacko Jacko Sr. doesn't believe in gays!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748 "2003-11-17T19:29:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/1 "2003-11-17T19:29:43Z")

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> [NY Daily News 11/15](http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/137012p-121806c.html)  
> Michael Jackson’s fearsome father claims he spared his son the rod - but not the belt.
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> “I whipped him with a switch and a belt,” Joe Jackson admits in a bizarre BBC interview that airs on British TV tomorrow. “I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick.”
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> The cranky Svengali who propelled Jackson to stardom - allegedly with regular beatings - also says he doesn’t care that his son reportedly vomits at the mere mention of his name. “He regurgitates all the way to the bank,” he said.
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> Joe Jackson, who is known for his short temper, got riled when (Louis) Theroux asked if he wished Jacko had a “partner.”
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> “What are you trying to say, that Michael’s gay?” he roared. “We don’t believe in gays. I can’t stand them.”
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> Theroux, the son of writer Paul Theroux, also got their goat when he asked about Jackson’s alleged plastic surgery - especially the pixie nose that Jacko insists is his own.
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> “I wasn’t there when he did it,” Joe Jackson said. “I didn’t know about it and anyway I’m not going to talk about his nose anymore. I’m not going to make him mad.”

Full interview transcript [here](http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2003/11_november/13/theroux_transcript.pdf) (PDF).

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/2 "2003-11-17T22:46:08Z")

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I don’t sense your angst. This looks more like a very short current events report.

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**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/3 "2003-11-17T22:49:39Z")

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Meh. What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/4 "2003-11-17T23:19:46Z")

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I personally sense no angst, but I do have to scratch my head in wonderment. Joe Jackson says he never beat his son, he just “Whipped him with a belt and a switch”. :rolleyes:

No wonder Jacko 1 is all fucked up. Yes, “whipping” your son with a piece of strong leather or a tree branch constitutes an ass beating even though you didn’t ball a fist and punch him in the nose.

These people are amazing.

Sam

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/5 "2003-11-17T23:27:03Z")

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Point is, The Gloved One evidently isn’t the only Jackson who has trouble connecting with reality. I wonder how far back it goes.

As to why I put this in the pit, I was expecting comments on the “gays don’t exist” angle and wanted to allow full expression. I’m feeling a bit disappointed at the moment.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/6 "2003-11-17T23:31:36Z")

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Oh, he was also keeping company with Mystical the magician during the interview? What’s up with that?

Sam

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/7 "2003-11-17T23:51:11Z")

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Hmmm…maybe if I chose a thread title a bit more descriptive.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/8 "2003-11-18T00:04:15Z")

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Thread title changed at OP’s request.

Lynn  
For the Straight Dope

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/9 "2003-11-18T00:31:38Z")

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Well Joe is a lunatic, I don’t think anyone takes him seriously.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/10 "2003-11-18T01:24:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \*  
> \*\*Thread title changed at OP’s request.
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> Lynn  
> For the Straight Dope \*\*

Thanks! Where do I send the chocolate? 🙂

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/11 "2003-11-18T02:29:02Z")

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Sorry, I just read another bit about Joe today. Guess I should have read the link 🙂

Sam

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/12 "2003-11-18T03:32:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
> \*\*Thanks! Where do I send the chocolate? 🙂 \*\*

To me! Send it to me.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/13 "2003-11-18T07:24:15Z")

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“What do you mean, you don’t believe in homosexuality? It’s not like the Easter Bunny, your belief isn’t necessary.” - Lea DeLaria

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/14 "2003-11-18T16:42:13Z")

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I was whipped with switches and belts as a child. It’s not the same as beating, and I turned out to be well rounded and normal. :rolleyes:

So the dad is a wacko. Who was surprised?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wacko-jacko-sr-doesnt-believe-in-gays/213748/15 "2003-11-18T19:33:29Z")

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And in other news: [police raid Neverland based on more allegations of sexual abuse](http://www.msnbc.com/news/995113.asp)!
