# Wait, Alexandre Dumas is TWO guys? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 28, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240 "2020-08-28T13:45:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/21 "2020-08-28T23:57:08Z")
Also, Sasha Cohen and Sacha Baron Cohen are not the same person. And as far as I know, Robert Downey Jr is not related to Morton Downey Jr. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/22 "2020-08-29T00:02:59Z")
I was impressed when Christopher Lloyd went from playing Doc Brown in _Back to the Future_ to creating a hit comedy like _Modern Family._ ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/23 "2020-08-29T00:12:59Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Also, Sasha Cohen and Sacha Baron Cohen are not the same person. Actually, they are. His character work is AMAZING! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/24 "2020-08-29T02:03:33Z")
Well, as long as Weird Al is still Frankie Yankovic’s kid… Easy mnemonic: **DU** mas is two guys, [**UNO** mas](https://unomas.ca/) is, umm, well, it’s now it’s three guys. With more joining in all the time. So never mind. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/25 "2020-08-29T02:14:08Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I was thinking today why isn’t there a modernized/tv-series adaptation of “The Count of Monte Cristo”? It’s got everything. And the bones of the story seem like they’d lend themselves well to an update. And it seems like it would be easily serializable (especially as that’s how it was originally released) > > Or has there been and I just missed it? There was a movie in 2002. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/26 "2020-08-29T03:04:52Z")
Seems to me the Lady of the Camelias/Camille used to be more familiar in the past, I suppose the larger number of adaptations of the Elder Dumas’ works in film/TV have increased the disparity in recognition. > [@amarinth](#): > > I was thinking today why isn’t there a modernized/tv-series adaptation of “The Count of Monte Cristo”? It’s got everything. And the bones of the story seem like they’d lend themselves well to an update. Well, there’s how every adaptation ever done of it has been claimed to fall short _somewhere_ but that (a) is an accusation made at every adaptation of everything and (b) is not surprising since it is a rather complex piece of work and producers end up having to cut or composite something – to do it in full ISTM would require more than a conventional miniseries. We’re talking full season and maybe two. Also it fails to have the sort of ending that mass media studios like to have. But I can see transposing it to a modern environment could be an interesting alternative, even with regards to how you map specific aspects of it to a different world than Dumas’ . One can imagine using cancel-culture or tabloid journalism to bring down some of the enemies, and the stock market manipulation can be translated into some of the known shenanigans of our age. ---
**Author:** ![phs3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phs3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phs3)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/27 "2020-08-29T03:38:22Z")
“Who are Alexandre Dumas, Alex!” ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/28 "2020-08-29T07:19:18Z")
Although I work, and seldom cease, At Dumas pere and Dumas fils, Alas, I cannot make me care For Dumas fils and Dumas pere. ~Dorothy Parker ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/29 "2020-08-29T08:51:04Z")
I just found out that _La Dame aux Caméllias_ is called “Camille” in English. And people complain about the translations of titles to Spanish… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/30 "2020-08-29T17:16:24Z")
You know, _Camille_ starts with a long detailed sequence of Armand having Marguerite exhumed from a pauper’s grave, and then viewing the decomposed corpse in lush graphic prose. It’s no wonder Fils ain’t as well known as Pere. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/31 "2020-08-29T23:18:40Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > There was a movie in 2002. That was in period. I’m looking for an update where he (or she) breaks out of Folsom and goes from there. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Well, there’s how every adaptation ever done of it has been claimed to fall short _somewhere_ True - but why not try again? It’s hollywood. They remake things all the time. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > A few years ago, ABC had a soapy night-time drama called _[Revenge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_(TV_series))_ , which was loosely (very loosely) based on _The Count of Monte Cristo_ . I think I watched about 5 minutes of that. I had no idea it was supposed to be CoMC - but, if so, that’s the kind of thing I was thinking about. But maybe a little closer to the story. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/32 "2020-08-30T02:46:24Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > True - but why not try again? It’s hollywood. They remake things all the time Yeah but of late they’re sticking to what they already know is a sure sale (how many \*&^%$ times are we going to reboot Spiderman/Batman?). But like I said, doing this particular thousand-pager right would probably have to be done in an HBO-style long season format and then you fight against audience attention span, or even worse, it being succesful and then studio execs wanting to milk it further and add more things, which would be a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/33 "2020-08-30T03:51:52Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > …There was a movie in 2002. Which I enjoyed, although I haven’t read the novel. Most Dumas fans disliked it, I gather. Here’s the trailer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzRSVl8UewM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzRSVl8UewM) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/34 "2020-08-30T04:40:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Which I enjoyed, although I haven’t read the novel. Most Dumas fans disliked it, I gather. Here’s the trailer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzRSVl8UewM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzRSVl8UewM) Yes, we think the Wishbone adaptation is the most faithful. 😂 ( [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/G3bQsVE_OsE/hqdefault.jpg "Wishbone S01E27 The Counts Account") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3bQsVE_OsE) As an aside when did voiceovers stop in trailers? Screams 1990’s, though it’s an early 2000’s production. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/35 "2020-08-30T05:23:10Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > As an aside when did voiceovers stop in trailers? Screams 1990’s, though it’s an early 2000’s production. Probably when [Don LaFontaine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine) died in 2008. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/36 "2020-08-30T10:46:03Z")
I read that book (in English) when I was about 14, after I saw the Greta Garbo movie. Wow, is it interesting to read when you are 14. My parents didn’t tell me about _any_ of that stuff, and they told me a lot. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/37 "2020-08-30T11:53:38Z")
That was almost 20 years ago. I know, I know, it sounds crazy but it’s true. I looked it up, did the math twice. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240/38 "2020-08-30T12:54:29Z")
Vingt ans apres? > **[Twenty Years After](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Years_After)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > Twenty Years After (French: Vingt ans après) is a novel by Alexandre Dumas, first serialized from January to August 1845. A book of The d'Artagnan Romances, it is a sequel to The Three Musketeers (1844) and precedes the 1847–1850 novel The Vicomte de Bragelonne (which includes the sub-plot Man in the Iron Mask). > The novel follows events in France during the Fronde, during the childhood reign of Louis XIV, and in England near the end of the English ... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-alexandre-dumas-is-two-guys/919240.md?page=1)