# Wait... \_\_\_\_\_\_ is still alive?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212 "2021-11-11T22:36:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/21 "2021-11-12T14:39:11Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> So you pay attention to whether Ed Ames is still alive?

Wow! I didn’t know he was still among the living.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/22 "2021-11-12T14:53:02Z")

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**Moderator Note**

> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Bad thread idea.

Please don’t threadshit.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/23 "2021-11-12T15:18:57Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Hope?

No, he died in 2003.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/24 "2021-11-12T15:20:41Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Bob Dole is 98 years old. Jimmy Carter, who ran for President 20 years _before_ Dole did, is 97. By contrast, Michael Dukakis is a spring chicken at age 88.

Or, as I said in the other thread, Henry Kissinger, still alive at 98.

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/25 "2021-11-12T17:28:40Z")

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I know Julie Newmar is, and I did know about Sam the Sham - even had him on my Celebrity Death list.

The other two, not sure. You can say “gotcha” if you like, but those two are not people I know a lot about. My point was more along the lines of, if someone you care about dies, the knowledge will filter down to you. I suppose there’s celebrities (Joe Namath, you know him even if you don’t watch football) and “well-known in their field” people whose passing might escape general notice.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/26 "2021-11-12T18:32:02Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Or, as I said in the other thread, Henry Kissinger, still alive at 98.

I just checked. Of the twenty-nine people who served as a cabinet officer in the Nixon administration, Kissinger is the only one still living (since George Shultz’s death last February).

Separate trivia note: Winton Blount (the Postmaster General) was the only person to serve a full eight years in Nixon’s cabinet.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/27 "2021-11-12T19:09:45Z")

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2 of LBJ’s cabinet ministers died within the past year, Secretary of Transportation Alan S. Boyd, age 98  
and Attorney General Ramsay Clark, age 93.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/28 "2021-11-12T19:29:18Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Winton Blount (the Postmaster General) was the only person to serve a full eight years in Nixon’s cabinet.

According to his [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winton_M._Blount) page, he served as Postmaster General from January 22, 1969 until January 1, 1972. He ran a failed campaign for a Senate seat in the 1972 election.

Also, Nixon wasn’t president for eight years.

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**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/29 "2021-11-12T23:03:07Z")

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R.I.P. Dave Berg (“The Lighter Side Of …”), Antonio Prohias (“Spy vs. Spy”) and MAD’s maddest artist, Don Martin, who went ka-floo-ie.

However, Sam Viviano (innumerable superb MAD movie parodies), Sergio Aragones (“A Mad Look At…” and “Groo the Wanderer”), and Al Jaffee (“The MAD Fold-in”) are all still kicking.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/30 "2021-11-13T01:05:39Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> According to his [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winton_M._Blount) page, he served as Postmaster General from January 22, 1969 until January 1, 1972. He ran a failed campaign for a Senate seat in the 1972 election.
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> Also, Nixon wasn’t president for eight years.

This is what I get for relying on Infoplease. They didn’t even get the man’s name right; they said he was William Blount.

They listed Blount as the only Postmaster General to serve under Nixon. This was not correct. Elmer Klassen served starting in 1972. Perhaps Infoplease chose not to list Klassen because the office was downgraded to a non-cabinet position.

I can’t blame Infoplease, however, for my mistake in saying Nixon served for eight years. I forgot there was a long-ago era when a President was held accountable for committing criminal acts.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/31 "2021-11-13T01:28:11Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> I know Julie Newmar is, and I did know about Sam the Sham - even had him on my Celebrity Death list. The other two, not sure. You can say “gotcha” if you like…

Gotcha.

mmm

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**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/32 "2021-11-13T15:15:26Z")

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Mamie Eisenhower is still dead.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/33 "2021-11-13T15:25:12Z")

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Any updates on Generalissimo Francisco **[Franco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo_Francisco_Franco_is_still_dead)**?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/34 "2021-11-13T17:01:20Z")

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Anna Maria Alberghetti (in a taxi, baby) is still alive.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/35 "2021-11-13T22:42:18Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > But I was just surprised to find out that [Sam the Sham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_the_Sham) is still alive.
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> Two other old time rockers who are still alive are Chubby Checker (80) and Jerry Lee Lewis (86). These guys had hits before I was born and I’m old.

Yeah, but if Chubby Checker tried to do the Twist now, he’d fly apart like a Lego toy in a hurricane.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/36 "2021-11-14T04:30:56Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > > But I was just surprised to find out that [Sam the Sham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_the_Sham) is still alive.
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> > Two other old time rockers who are still alive are Chubby Checker (80) and Jerry Lee Lewis (86). These guys had hits before I was born and I’m old.
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> Yeah, but if Chubby Checker tried to do the Twist now, he’d fly apart like a Lego toy in a hurricane.

On the other hand, there’s probably a whole lot more shakin’ goin’ on then there was back in 1958.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/37 "2021-11-21T04:53:08Z")

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Just heard about another one I wasn’t aware of; Joyce Randolph, who played Trixie on _The Honeymooners_, is still alive at 97.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/38 "2021-11-21T05:22:10Z")

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I just saw a really good documentary on the Cocoanut Grove fire, which happened in November of 1942. It was made a few years ago, but according to the updates at the end, at least one of the survivors is still alive.

I just checked, and the last survivor of the Hindenburg died about two years ago.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/39 "2021-11-21T14:23:12Z")

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Ann Turner Cook, the original Gerber Baby, turned 95 yesterday.

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**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-is-still-alive/954212/40 "2021-11-21T23:16:31Z")

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Clarissa Eden, the widow of Anthony Eden, died only last week. Nor was that a case of a late marriage long after he had retired, although there was a big age difference. They were already married when he became Prime Minister 66 years ago.

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