# "Wait, it's a different guy?" moments

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 26, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157 "2022-02-26T16:45:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/1 "2022-02-26T16:45:44Z")

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While reading the thread about spotting actors in other roles, ([Hey it’s that guy!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hey-its-that-guy-moment/959635/81))…

Years ago I was watching “Leave it to Beaver” and there he was, Harrison Ford!

Only it wasn’t. It was Buddy Hart. Look at this guy.

> **[Buddy Hart Photos, News and Videos, Trivia and Quotes - FamousFix](https://m.famousfix.com/topic/buddy-hart-6356407)**
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> 23 January 2023... FamousFix profile for Buddy Hart including biography information, wikipedia facts, photos, galleries, news, youtube videos, quotes, posters, magazine covers, trailers, links, filmography, discography and trivia.

Scroll down the link to see a screen shot from the show. Sheesh! Any other “I could have sworn it was…but it was actually…” moments?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/2 "2022-02-26T16:50:58Z")

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I remember a few years back there was speculation that Ford was in _ **The Great Escape** _ (1963) as a member of the Hitler Youth:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/XempypxlhAM/hqdefault.jpg "Harrison Ford - 1st appearance "Director's Cut"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XempypxlhAM)

Watching a 1962 episode of _ **Dick van Dyke** _ yesterday, I momentarily mistook Barry Livingston (“Ernie” on _ **My Three Sons** _) for Ronnie Howard (“Opie” on _ **Andy Griffith** _).

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/3 "2022-02-26T17:16:10Z")

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I used to confuse

> **[Harriet Sansom Harris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Sansom_Harris)**
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> Harriet Sansom Harris (born January 8, 1955) is an American actress known for her theater performances and for her portrayals of Bebe Glazer on Frasier and Felicia Tilman on Desperate Housewives. 
> Harris won a Tony Award in 2002 as a Featured Actress in a Musical for her performance in Thoroughly Modern Millie. In addition to television and theater, she has made various film appearances, including Memento, Addams Family Values, Nurse Betty and Ph...

with

> **[Ann Dowd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dowd)**
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> Ann Dowd (born January 30, 1956) is an American actress. She has played supporting roles in numerous films, including Green Card (1990), Lorenzo's Oil (1992), Philadelphia (1993), Garden State (2004), The Manchurian Candidate (2004), Marley & Me (2008), Side Effects (2013), St. Vincent (2014), Captain Fantastic (2016), and Hereditary (2018). Dowd appeared as Sandra in the thriller film Compliance (2012), for which she received the National Board...

and for years I thought

> **[Dan Lauria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Lauria)**
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> Daniel Joseph Lauria (born April 12, 1947) is an American actor, known for playing the role of Jack Arnold in The Wonder Years (1988–1993), Jack Sullivan on Sullivan and Son (2012–2014), and Al Luongo on Pitch (2016–2017).
> Lauria, an Italian-American, was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Carmela (née Luongo) and Joseph J. Lauria. He also lived in Lindenhurst, New York. He graduated from Lindenhurst Senior High School in 1965 as a varsity ...

was the same guy as

> **[Richard Kind](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kind)**
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> Richard Bruce Kind (born November 22, 1956) is an American actor and comedian, known for his roles as Dr. Mark Devanow in Mad About You (1992–1999, 2019), Paul Lassiter in Spin City (1996–2002), Andy in Curb Your Enthusiasm (2002–2021), and as Arthur in A Serious Man (2009). 
> Kind is also known for his voice performances in various Pixar films such as A Bug's Life (1998), the first two films of the Cars franchise (2006–2011), Toy Story 3 (2010)...

No, I don’t know what’s wrong with me.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/4 "2022-02-26T17:25:46Z")

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I’ve never confused **this guy** with another _actor_, but for some reason I’ve always had trouble keeping his _name_ straight: “It’s Arthur Hill. No, wait. It’s Owen Marshall. No, wait…” 😕

> **[Owen Marshall, Counselor at Law (TV Series 1971–1974) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066696/)**
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> Owen Marshall, Counselor at Law: Created by Jerry McNeely, David Victor. With Arthur Hill, Joan Darling, Lee Majors, Christine Matchett. In a small California town, attorney Owen Marshall, assisted by several different younger lawyers, defends...

I once got into a prolonged argument with an old girlfriend who insisted Richard Harris played Henry II in _ **The Lion in Winter.** _ I bet her a pepperoni pizza that it was Peter O’Toole, but we weren’t together long enough to for me to collect on it. ☹

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/5 "2022-02-26T17:32:58Z")

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This was common in the studio era, when the moguls would put near-lookalikes under contract to keep the stars from getting out of line.

An example was Nelson Eddy, who realized Jeanette MacDonald was the real draw, but he was irreplaceable as her leading man. So the brought in [Alan Jones.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHNlfT6B9E)

Eddy came back with his tail between his legs, but demanded Jones be removed. Jones went back to his dental practice, but [His son](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KiTOqpVgL8s) carried on.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/6 "2022-02-26T17:42:24Z")

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I used to get Lloyd Bridges and Donald Moffat confused. But, when looking at side-by-side photos of the two, I have no idea why.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/7 "2022-02-26T17:43:33Z")

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I watched **Fortitude** on Amazon and I was really sure that the guy who played Vincent Rattrey also played Victor Frankenstein on **Penny Dreadful**. I mean, I was certain, they looked exactly alike. But scanning through Luke Treadaway’s IMDB credits didn’t show Penny Dreadful. It was so strange, because I’m _really_ good at figuring out that this person was in x,y, and z. I’m almost never wrong.

I didn’t give it a lot of thought after that, until a couple of years later I read an article about ‘stars you didn’t know had twins’…

Yeah, turns out they’re identical twins. The one on Penny Dreadful is Harry Treadaway 😃

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/8 "2022-02-26T17:43:41Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> “It’s Arthur Hill. No, wait. It’s Owen Marshall. No, wait…”

> ELAINE: Andrea Doria? Isn’t that the one they did the song about?
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> JERRY: (Correcting her) Edmund Fitzgerald.
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> ELIANE: I love Edmund Fitzgerald’s voice.
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> JERRY: (Gives Elaine a look) No, Gordon Lightfoot was the singer. Edmund Fitzgerald was the ship.
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> GEORGE: (Talking about his would-be apartment) You could fit 15 people in that bathroom…
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> ELAINE: I think Gordon Lightfoot was the boat.
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> JERRY: (Sarcastic) Yeah, and it was rammed by the Cat Stevens.

[Source](https://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheAndreaDoria.htm)

I saw Victoria Tennant in a Steve Martin movie and thought she was Jessica Lange. At the time, I hadn’t seen Jessica Lange in many things, plus I’ve gotten glasses since.

> **[Victoria Tennant](https://mubi.com/en/cast/victoria-tennant)**
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> Victoria Tennant's films include All of Me, L.A. Story, Irene in Time, The Handmaid's Tale

@elfkin477

> I didn’t give it a lot of thought after that, until a couple of years later I read an article about ‘stars you didn’t know had twins’…

I think Penelope Cruz is one of the most beautiful women of all time. Not a twin, but her sister Monica is even more beautiful. WRT the article nobody asked ME for a donation 😡

> **[Mónica Cruz, sister of actress Penélope Cruz, says she’s pregnant by an...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2013/01/11/mnica-cruz-sister-of-actress-penlope-cruz-says-shes-pregnant-by-an-anonymous-sperm-donor/)**
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> The younger sister of Hollywood A-lister Penélope Cruz has turned to an anonymous sperm donor because she feared she would not meet the man of her dreams in time. Mónica Cruz, 35, rev…

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/9 "2022-02-26T17:44:15Z")

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I have mentioned this before on this board, and friends in real life who are old enough to remember just role their eyes at me, but…

When Tom Hanks was most famous for _Bosom Buddies_, and Michael Keaton was not very famous at all (he was in a show titled _Working Stiffs_ which had a few future TV stars in the cast), I literally could not tell them apart. They were both “that fast taking, dark haired funny guy I like so much”. As time passed they grew to be very different actors – both of them to my surprise tried serious drama. I understand they both had some success in drama/thriller roles.

Just so I don’t appear as clueless as I am (or at least was), those of you who are old enough to remember when they first came out, which one was in _Night Shift_ and which one was in _Bachelor Party_?

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/10 "2022-02-26T17:47:11Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> which one was in _Night Shift_ and which one was in _Bachelor Party_ ?

Hanks was in Bachelor Party, didn’t see Night Shift. Was Henry Winkler in the latter?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/11 "2022-02-26T17:50:58Z")

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I woulda sworn the villian in Dead Calm was Ray Liotta, not Billy Zane, until a cable showing disabused me.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/12 "2022-02-26T17:58:59Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> Hanks was in Bachelor Party, didn’t see Night Shift. Was Henry Winkler in the latter?

Yes, it was Henry Winkler’s vehicle, Keaton was only a co-star. In those days, cable was still fairly new and both of those movies were shown in fairly heavy rotation. Even though it only took three minutes to prove me wrong-- can you at least see the similarity??

I believe Keaton would have made just as good movies out of:  
_Bachelor Party_  
_The Money Pit_ and  
_Dragnet_ as Hanks did, and further that if Hanks had stared in:

_Night Shift_  
_Mr. Mom_ and  
_Gung Ho_ they would have been essentially the very same movies they turned out to be with Keaton.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/13 "2022-02-26T18:02:14Z")

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Early Tom Hanks movies are a little odd to watch because it’s weird to see Hanks in (say) Bachelor Party and Dragnet as the wild, irresponsible, sometimes jerkish guy, when after Big he was typecast as the everyman hero.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/14 "2022-02-26T18:04:30Z")

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Well, I got the guy who played [Agent Mike Weston](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Ashmore) in the television drama series _[The Following](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Following)_, confused with the guy who played [Johnny Jaqobis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Ashmore) on the Canadian television series _[Killjoys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killjoys_(TV_series))_.

He is the identical twin brother of actor [Shawn Ashmore](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Ashmore).

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/15 "2022-02-26T18:06:11Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> Yes, it was Henry Winkler’s vehicle, Keaton was only a co-star.

Somehow I never saw it. I just remember thinking that Fonz had jumped the shark.

> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> I believe Keaton would have made just as good movies out of

Agreed. I always wondered why Peter Scolari wasn’t more successful post-Bosom Buddies (Tom Hanks has had a hell of a run since then). And I think Hanks plays drama better than Keaton—Pacific Heights, Batman, and others were kind of flat for me.

> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Early Tom Hanks movies are a little odd to watch because it’s weird to see Hanks in (say) Bachelor Party and Dragnet as the wild, irresponsible, sometimes jerkish guy, when after Big he was typecast as the everyman hero.

Yeah. He had this [appearance on Taxi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSl0X4heQBQ) which wasn’t great, but I fault the writing somewhat.

I remember mixing up Meg and Jennifer Tilly, back when they were younger. Then it was “Oh, that’s a Tilly…which one?”

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When younger they looked very different, but as they continue to age, Brad Pitt and Benecio del Toro are slowly becoming the same guy.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/17 "2022-02-26T18:11:04Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Early Tom Hanks movies are a little odd to watch because it’s weird to see Hanks in (say) Bachelor Party and Dragnet as the wild, irresponsible, sometimes jerkish guy, when after Big he was typecast as the everyman hero.

Yes, this exactly! It was only during the early part of their careers that I confused them.

While I stand by my comments above, I think Hanks would have been a disappointing _Batman_ and Keaton would have not done as well with _Apollo 13_. _A League of Their Own_ could be well played by both actors, and _Pacific Heights_ also, but for their early work I believe they were pretty interchangeable.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/18 "2022-02-26T18:30:09Z")

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My inability to tell Ryan Gosling apart from Ryan Reynolds pre-Deadpool was almost comical.

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> Somehow I never saw it. I just remember thinking that Fonz had jumped the shark.

He had one of the best moments in movie history (up until then) in that movie.  
I don’t know how to spoil, but perhaps one of the powers that be will correct this for me after the fact.

The Winkler character is a really straight laced, non assertive guy who gets taken advantage of routinely. The Keaton character (and oddly enough, the love of a good woman) give him the courage to try some things outside his comfort zone. Of course things go wrong and he finds himself in jail. He is giving a pretty emotional speech about knowing he should have never gone down this path - etc., etc., etc. He says: I have fallen as far as I could have fallen." (Or something very close to that.) And Then - - - - - - -

> 

One of the other prisoners blows him a kiss. He turns back toward his friend (or maybe the camera) and with remarkable pathos says: “I was wrong. Very, very wrong” There is something about the execution of that exchange that makes you feel sad - - - - - - and then breaks you up!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-its-a-different-guy-moments/960157/20 "2022-02-26T18:40:39Z")

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I caught an episode of Snowfall, and I said, “Hey, it’s that guy from Lost.”

But it wasn’t Matthew Fox. It was some guy named Carter Hudson who doesn’t have a Wiki page.

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