# Wait, that's the same guy??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 2, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165 "2006-06-02T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/161 "2006-06-08T09:51:15Z")

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Thewlis also played Johnny, a rather intelligent and intriguing lowlife scumbag, in _Naked_. He wore lederhosen and got some bizarre short back and sides _Mitteleuropäisches_ haircut for _Seven Years in Tibet_ to go with the little 1930s mustache. But I thought he was fairly recognizable throughout.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/162 "2006-06-08T16:26:40Z")

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He also played one the ‘good’ knights in Kingdom of Heaven. I think the only reason I recognized him is because I rented both of them in the same weekend.  
Didn’t he also play the bad prince in Dragonheart?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/163 "2006-06-08T19:40:20Z")

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> [@2MuchTrivia](#):
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> The one I missed (I am usually good at voices) was **Jenette Goldstein**. She was Vasquez in _Aliens_, the Irish mother who takes her kids back to berthing in _Titanic_, and the foster mom in _T:2_.  
> Most big “stars” I spot, it is the character actors I miss.

She also starred with _Aliens_ buddies Paxton and Henricksen in _Near Dark_.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/164 "2006-06-08T19:41:24Z")

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> [@Push You Down](#):
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> He also played one the ‘good’ knights in Kingdom of Heaven. I think the only reason I recognized him is because I rented both of them in the same weekend.  
> Didn’t he also play the bad prince in Dragonheart?

Yes and yes, IIRC.

And he was in the terrible remake of _The Island of Dr. Moreau_ with Brando and Val Kilmer.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/165 "2006-06-08T19:50:11Z")

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> [@2MuchTrivia](#):
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> The one I missed (I am usually good at voices) was Jenette **Goldstein**. She was \*\*Vasquez \*\* in _Aliens_, the \*\*Irish \*\* mother who takes her kids back to berthing in _Titanic_, and the foster mom in _T:2_.

(bolding mine).

That is one ethnically adaptable actress.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/166 "2006-06-08T20:10:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> That is one ethnically adaptable actress.

All-purpose ethnic, like Anthony Quinn, Yul Brynner, and Michael Ansara (TV’s version)

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/167 "2006-06-09T01:30:04Z")

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David Settle, who played the young writer who crashes the wedding at the end of **Under the Tuscan Sun** , also plays the young lovesick executive in the B-level chick flick **Cake**. He’d lost a bit of weight and the facial hair, but it’s him.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/168 "2006-06-09T11:43:41Z")

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I’d been watching _Farscape_ for an embarrassing long time before I realized that Crais and the voice of Pilot were the same guy (Lani Tupu).

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/169 "2006-06-09T13:03:56Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Wrong Sgt Schultz, you are thinking [Hogan’s Heroes](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058812/), **CalMeacham** was talking about [Stalag 17 (1953)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046359/) with Sig Ruman as Sgt. Schulz.

Also from **To Be or Not To Be** , “So, they call me concentration-camp Ehrhardt, do they?”

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/170 "2006-06-09T13:06:16Z")

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> Also from To Be or Not To Be, “So, they call me concentration-camp Ehrhardt, do they?”

I’m hoping that you’re joking, and not really confusing the blonde and much younger **Charles During** (from a great many films, including playing the Governor in **Best Little Whorehouse in Texas** , where he sings and dances up a storm) with Sig Ruman.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/171 "2006-06-09T13:17:00Z")

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From the original _To Be or Not to Be_ (Lubitsch, Benny, 1942), not the remake (Johnson, Brooks, 1983).

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/172 "2006-06-09T13:30:30Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’m hoping that you’re joking, and not really confusing the blonde and much younger **Charles During** (from a great many films, including playing the Governor in **Best Little Whorehouse in Texas** , where he sings and dances up a storm) with Sig Ruman.

**Robot Arm** , caught it but i’d just like to say that I love the Benny film so much I’ve never bothered to see the Brooks one.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/173 "2006-06-09T13:41:19Z")

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Ah, sorry – my mistake.

Sacrilege, I know, but I prefer the Brooks version, so it’s what I thought of.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/174 "2007-06-14T19:20:29Z")

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I was watching the movie _Manhunter_ with my wife. I’d seen it a hundred times, but she’d never seen it, although she loved _Red Dragon_. I’m trying to explain that this was the original pre-_Silence of the Lambs_ version, when she asks “Is that Grissom?”

“Well, he’s kind of like Grissom. See, Will Graham -”

“No, I mean the actor. Isn’t that the guy who plays Grissom from CSI?”

“Um…wait. Is it?”

Checked the guide listing: William Petersen. :smack: :eek:

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/175 "2007-06-14T20:15:31Z")

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The one that floored me was the day I realized that Jack Malone on _Without a Trace_ is played by the same guy who was Daphne’s boorish brother on _Frasier_: Anthony La Paglia.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/176 "2007-06-14T21:17:01Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Well if Gandalf can be Magneto, having been in Shakespeare, panto and UK Soap opera…  
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Wait, Ganalf is Magneto?? I mean, of course he is now that you point it out but I never put that together.

And add me to the “holy shit!” chorus of Vincent D’Onfrio = Thor.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/177 "2007-06-14T21:17:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Labdad]  
The one that floored me was the day I realized that Jack Malone on _Without a Trace_ is played by the same guy who was Daphne’s boorish brother on _Frasier_: Anthony La Paglia.  
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Who was also in “Empire Records” as a slimmer hotter guy.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/178 "2007-06-14T21:24:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Askia]  
I chimed in, “Missssster Annnndersonnnnn.”  
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Really?

I went “Mister Frodo…”

Then wondered when he was going to pull out the sunglasses.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/179 "2007-06-14T21:29:00Z")

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I have to admit that I was rather surprised to learn that the East German dodgeball player in “Dodgeball” was none other than the awfully good looking Missi Pyle, from the new “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”, that show “Wedding Belles”, and “Soul Plane”.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-thats-the-same-guy/359165/180 "2007-06-14T21:30:16Z")

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It took me quite a while to realize **[Seth Gilliam](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319121/)** played:

1. Aaron Dexter, Pam’s (Cosby’s cousin) love interest in _The Cosby Show_;

2. African Babatunde Amoda in _Law & Order_;

3. C.O. Clayton Hughes, in _Oz_; and

4. Det. Sgt. Ellis Carver, in _The Wire_.

I made the connection between 3) and 4) rather soon after seeing him in _The Wire_, but it wasn’t until after that realization that it dawned on me that he had played in 1) and 2).

It also could not have helped that I thought he was gay on _The Cosby Show_ but definitely so in the other roles.

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