# Wait ... this shit is \*news\*? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606 "2003-01-30T14:11:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/21 "2003-01-30T23:32:07Z")
I can’t imagine ever being surprised about an entertainment reporter reporting on an entertainment story. And I can’t imagine believing that because one reporter covers entertainment, no one can cover “important things” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/22 "2003-01-30T23:49:54Z")
**gonzoron** beat me to it. “Joe Millionaire” gave Fox its highest-rated series premiere since 1998. That plus “American Idol” is making Fox a TV powerhouse like NBC was a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/23 "2003-01-30T23:56:10Z")
Of course, [Fox](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77023,00.html) reported on the story as well. I’ve seen a lot of silly crap on CNN/Showbiz. Don’t see how this is any different. Besides, it was a Reuters story anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/24 "2003-01-31T00:22:26Z")
Ahem. [Righteous indignation] I was fully expecting these comments, so I will reply with a simple, "Nobody who _counts_ watches it. Lousy, stupid “reality” worthless fucking crapola TV. [/Righteous indignation] ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/25 "2003-01-31T00:34:40Z")
I watch it. I haven’t watched any other reality show, but this one was just too much of a train wreck to not tune in. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/26 "2003-01-31T00:37:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gorgon Heap \* > \*\*On [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) this morning … > > [http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/29/joemillionaire.fetish.reut/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/29/joemillionaire.fetish.reut/index.html) > > [qoute]LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) – One of three women finalists on the hit Fox reality show “Joe Millionaire” has starred under another name in dozens of bondage and fetish films, a Web site reported Wednesday. \*\* [/QUOTE] Unless these were home movies they weren’t part of her “personal” life. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/27 "2003-01-31T00:46:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gorgon Heap \* > \*\*I was fully expecting these comments, so I will reply with a simple, "Nobody who _counts_ watches it. \*\* “I’m not a snob. Ask anybody. Well, anybody who matters.” – Simon Le Bon 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/28 "2003-01-31T01:27:09Z")
I still think that Po from the Teletubbies doing hot lesbian vids was a better story… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/29 "2003-01-31T02:07:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gonzoron \* > \*\*While I agree it’s not news, but is entertaintment news, I gotta call you on this one. Considering it’s one of the highest rated shows on TV right now, you can’t really claim that nobody is watching. \*\* In fairness, I’m sure there’s only a few million people watching that tripe. If that’s true (and I’m too lazy to back up my assertion), then that would mean that less than 1% of the U.S. population is watching Joe Millionaire. I would consider that to be nobody. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/30 "2003-01-31T02:20:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > \*\*In fairness, I’m sure there’s only a few million people watching that tripe. If that’s true (and I’m too lazy to back up my assertion), then that would mean that less than 1% of the U.S. population is watching Joe Millionaire. I would consider that to be nobody. \*\* According to [Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77023,00.html): “The show drew more than 20 million viewers on Monday, its biggest audience yet.” Please don’t be lazy if you’re going to make such an assertion. ---
**Author:** ![SC\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@SC\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/31 "2003-01-31T05:09:18Z")
An non sequitor observation about the OP title: While that shit might not be news, [this shit _is_ most definately entertainment.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159170) ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/32 "2003-01-31T06:23:02Z")
It’s news only if you’re naive enough to believe that people who work in the sex industry take vows of occupational chastity, promising to forsake all other work. There are a lot of bondage models doing mainstream stuff, mostly horror and softcore stuff, but they do a fair amount of small parts in TV and A list movies as well. Frex, a bondage model had a role in the first Brady Bunch movie. Small role, but still. It’s just so amazing – a bondage model was offered a mainstream gig, and took it! Who’d a thunk it? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/33 "2003-01-31T07:21:33Z")
You know what scares me the most? CNN et al are apparently reading [www.fark.com](http://www.fark.com) to get their news. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/34 "2003-01-31T07:40:01Z")
> [@](#): > > It appears CNN sees nothing of importance going on in the world, so they throw in stories about some ladies’ personal life because she happns to be on a lousy TV show nobody watches. If you are looking for news on the CNN site, can I suggest you look on the front page: > **[CNN - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos](https://www.cnn.com/)** > > View the latest news and breaking news today for U.S., world, weather, entertainment, politics and health at CNN.com. …where I can count at least five stories on the war with Iraq, and many other stories that may interest you. However, I would reccomend that you stay away from the Entertainment Sections, lest your “pit rant” level’s begin to rise again…and if you want to rant about reality TV shows, maybe you should be more specific in your Opening Post? ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/35 "2003-01-31T14:03:42Z")
**Banquet Bear** , maybe you should just suck it up. If my “pit rant level’s” aren’t up to your sterling standards don’t bother reading them. Otherwise, I’ll be sure to enter whatever pathetic excuse of a rant you start some day and be sure to denounce it as the lame horseshit it is. Is my consternation at the sensationalism of the news industry too bourgeois for your upper-class palate? Maybe I should wait until I have a topic of world-shattering importance before I post a thread that you will be _forced_ to read. Or maybe you should just fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/36 "2003-01-31T15:50:05Z")
I believe it was Hawthorne who recently used the word “otiose”. It certainly applies to CNN’s report. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/37 "2003-01-31T16:51:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > \*\*You know what scares me the most? CNN et al are apparently reading [www.fark.com](http://www.fark.com) to get their news. \*\* No. The Smoking Gun broke this story. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/38 "2003-01-31T19:36:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > \*\*No. > > The Smoking Gun broke this story. > > Haj \*\* Yes, but it was posted on fark. I saw it there, and so did 51,933 other people. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606/39 "2003-01-31T22:23:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > \*\*Yes, but it was posted on fark. I saw it there, and so did 51,933 other people. \*\* So what? CNN didn’t find out about it there. Haj [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wait-this-shit-is-news/151606.md?page=1)