# waiting \[for Supreme Court decision on health care law\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510 "2012-06-18T13:51:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/121 "2012-06-21T11:58:47Z")
Is there ever advanced indication of when to expect a ruling, or do they just drop it suddenly and without warning? You’d think somebody in the building would be generating buzz about it. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/122 "2012-06-21T11:59:41Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Does Scalia get phone calls telling him how to vote? Of course not. But his sympathies lie with the business wing of the Republican Party. Their corporate masters tell them how to spin the party line, Scalia picks up on this and votes accordingly. Sure, he’ll vote for what may be construed as the liberal position on some minor issues, but anything that affects the corporate bottom line- he’ll toe the corporate line. We all knew a year ago how the vote would go: Scalia, Thomas, and Alito were automatic votes against. Roberts will certainly vote against except that if Stevens votes for, he may join him only to avoid a 5-4 decision and to write the opinion. > > The days where we could look up to the Justices as impartial arbiters is long behind us. And somewhere on another board someone is saying the same thing about, for instance, Kagan and the liberals. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/123 "2012-06-21T12:00:54Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > You are saying that a guy who is 75 years old and is guaranteed a six figure salaried job for life, with a comfortable pension when he retires, is terrified of crossing those who are giving him “marching orders”? Yes, the idea that Scalia takes orders from anyone is whacky. If anything, he’s independent. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/124 "2012-06-21T12:57:27Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Is there ever advanced indication of when to expect a ruling, or do they just drop it suddenly and without warning? You’d think somebody in the building would be generating buzz about it. They drop it without any warning. It’s always that way. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/125 "2012-06-21T14:16:27Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > I remember a year or two ago someone pointed out how arduous the process was when we can pretty safely say we know 8/9 votes. They said, “Lets just save the government however many millions of dollars. Someone get Kennedy’s cell number and just ask him what he thinks for Og’s sake.” Washington and Jefferson thought so, too. Blame [John Jay](http://courses.missouristate.edu/ftmiller/letteradvisoryopin.htm). ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/126 "2012-06-21T14:22:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > They drop it without any warning. It’s always that way. There is talk - pure speculation of course - that it will come today. The White House and liberal groups are busy setting the stage that if it overturns ACA, it’s political. While somehow if it doesn’t, it’s not political. That’s in line with Obama’s silly “unprecedented” comment earlier this year. It’s a cynical game they’re playing. And I am an Obama supporter, so nobody can accuse me of being political in my opinion about this. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/127 "2012-06-21T14:46:25Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > There is talk - pure speculation of course - that it will come today. > > The White House and liberal groups are busy setting the stage that if it overturns ACA, it’s political. While somehow if it doesn’t, it’s not political. That’s in line with Obama’s silly “unprecedented” comment earlier this year. It’s a cynical game they’re playing. > > And I am an Obama supporter, so nobody can accuse me of being political in my opinion about this. You are being political in your opinion about this. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/128 "2012-06-21T15:06:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You are being political in your opinion about this. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/129 "2012-06-21T15:21:25Z")
And they drop one and it’s the WRONG one. [Supreme Court throws out FCC policy on curse words and nudity on TV](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-throws-out-fcc-policy-on-curse-words-and-nudity-on-tv/2012/06/21/gJQA5GinsV_story.html?hpid=z1) ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/130 "2012-06-21T15:21:57Z")
I read somewhere that SCOTUS usually meets at 10am to release their opinions on the days they have opinions to announce. The author of the opinion announces it from the bench. Said they go from least senior to most senior. Not sure how accurate that rundown is. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/131 "2012-06-21T15:25:40Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > I read somewhere that SCOTUS usually meets at 10am to release their opinions on the days they have opinions to announce. The author of the opinion announces it from the bench. Said they go from least senior to most senior. > > Not sure how accurate that rundown is. Not for all of them. Here’s the Court’s website where anyone can follow opinions directly: > **[Opinions - Supreme Court of the United States](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/opinions.aspx)** ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/132 "2012-06-21T16:52:18Z")
So since they didn’t release it today does that mean that they are still dotting Is and crossing Ts? Or are they just fucking with us because they can? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/133 "2012-06-21T16:57:23Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > So since they didn’t release it today does that mean that they are still dotting Is and crossing Ts? Or are they just fucking with us because they can? Or they’re still, like, working on it. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/134 "2012-06-21T17:50:50Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > So since they didn’t release it today does that mean that they are still dotting Is and crossing Ts? Or are they just fucking with us because they can? I believe the general opinion is that it will be the last decision released. Since there are 5 more besides this one (at least that’s what I read), there’s a good chance it won’t be Monday either. That or they’re working on the TV spectacular described up-thread. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/135 "2012-06-21T19:54:53Z")
Never forget that tomorrow’s a Friday. They can issue it and get out of town. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/136 "2012-06-22T12:28:50Z")
They’re going to get LeBron James to host a two hour special to announce the verdict. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/137 "2012-06-22T13:09:18Z")
No matter which way it goes, Republicans are ready: [Mourdock Accidentally Releases Choose-Your-Own-Adventure Reaction To ‘Obamacare’](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/richard-mourdock-obamacare-youtube-accident.php) > [@](#): > > No matter what happens when the Supreme Court rules on the legislation Republicans refer to as “Obamacare,” Indiana Republican nominee for Senate Richard Mourdock will be ready. > > Like some weird message from the fictional future found in a _Lost_ DVD Easter Egg, here are the videos his campaign has prepared for [any] potential outcome from the Supreme Court. > > The videos were posted briefly to YouTube before the Mourdock campaign pulled them down. TPM captured them and reposts them below. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/138 "2012-06-22T13:49:57Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Never forget that tomorrow’s a Friday. They can issue it and get out of town. I thought it was only Mondays and Thursdays when they issued their decisions. Could be wrong… ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/139 "2012-06-22T14:11:12Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No matter which way it goes, Republicans are ready: LOL nice find. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510/140 "2012-06-22T14:40:53Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No matter which way it goes, Republicans are ready: > > [Mourdock Accidentally Releases Choose-Your-Own-Adventure Reaction To ‘Obamacare’](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/richard-mourdock-obamacare-youtube-accident.php) No matter which way the decision goes ALL political parties are ready to make an appropriate response. Not just Mourdock. Not just Republicans. Considering how fast various responses have been issued (on almost any subject) in the recent past, the airwaves and the internet will be inundated with responses to the SC’s four expected rulings on O’bamacare. Anyone who isn’t PREPARED to respond immediately will be lost in the rhetoric for days (weeks? ever?). _“Like the vast majority of Hoosiers, Richard hopes the Supreme Court strikes down ObamaCare, which our opponent Joe Donnelly dutifully supported. But as the Boy Scouts say, ‘be prepared.’”_ I doubt that Mourdock, or any other politician, would decide to put these types of videos on line. Whoever posted the videos “was not a friend” Mourdock’s campaign. I’m only guessing but the early release seems to be an attempt to embareass a candidate. (Not that polittions need any help embareassing themselves.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waiting-for-supreme-court-decision-on-health-care-law/625510.md?page=8)