Waiting for the doctor - how long is too long?

As an adult, by myself, I’d be prone to agree… but with kids it’s far preferable to wait in the waiting room. There at least there are chairs and magazines and/or books and usually a few toys or other children to play with. In an examination room there’s nothing for them to do and bored children in a room full of stuff they can’t/shouldn’t touch is not a way I want to spend 10 minutes, never mind an hour.

To the OP: as a parent with two children who both require frequent doctor and hospital visits, a half an hour is about the maximum time I’m willing to wait, barring an explanation. I’m a pretty understanding person and am fully willing to accept that shit happens and things don’t always go to plan… just don’t jerk me around about it or just expect me to be cool to sit around for an hour wondering and trying to keep my kids entertained.

IME, specialists are better about keeping to schedules than general doctors like pediatricians. For example, I usually have about a 15 minute wait in the waiting room at my daughter’s cardiologist before being called back into the examination room, and then after the nurse gets all of the no-doctor-required stuff out of the way (weight, blood pressure, EKG, etc.), I usually have to wait another 10-15 minutes for the doctor herself.

On the other hand, their pediatrician’s office is always at least a 20 minute wait in a well-stocked waiting room no matter how early I arrive for the appointment, and then another 20 minutes waiting in the examination room for the doctor after the nurse leaves. There is always a general sense of too many patients and not enough doctors, and based on the constant flow of people through the waiting room I think they overbook themselves, even knowing that they’re going to wind up running behind.

That said, I too have learned to always try and book appointments first thing in the morning or after lunch. The odds of getting seen more quickly are way better.

How long I’ll wait will depend on a variety of factors. Is this the only GI doc who’s taking new patients? How far in advance did I have to schedule an appointment? Do I have to wait more than half an hour for every single appointment? And does the doc spend a lot of time on me when I need extra time?

I’ve waited up to four hours, but the receptionist kept telling me that the doctor would see me real soon now. I needed that procedure done, and this particular doctor was the only one who took my insurance and was taking new patients in my area, so I stuck around. When I finally saw him, he spent about a minute and a half on my problem, and then tried to convince me to get lap band surgery done. I told him that I wasn’t interested, and that my doctor and I were well pleased with my weight loss efforts. After he did the colonscopy/endoscopy, I saw him on a followup visit, in which he prescribed antibiotics for the h. pylori, and then spent another half hour trying to convince me that I NEEDED that lap band done. I’d waited for only three hours that time. I had a third appointment with him, but after half an hour in the waiting room, I looked around me, saw how many patients were in there with me, and asked the receptionist how late he was running THIS day. She said that oh, it wouldn’t be too terribly long. Since most of those patients in the waiting room were ahead of me, I told her that I’d just cancel the appointment today. And I haven’t gone back to him.

On the other hand, there’s another specialist who almost always sees me within 10 minutes of my appointment time…but always has time to discuss any issues that I need to talk about.

I can tell you how the practice I’m working in at the moment is set up.

Each doctor has a consulting room they sit in. The patients come to them from the waiting room.

Unlike US doctors offices there is no requirement to strip off and wear a gown- I’ll talk to you, decide what examination you require and ask you to remove the relevant clothing at that point.

I have 15 minute appointment slots because as a junior GP I need more time. The senior partners have 10 minute slots. My slots are usually booked up about 3 days in advance, but I have one empty slot in the morning at 10am and one in the afternoon at 4pm that I can put an emergency into, although mostly I use the time to catch up on paperwork or prevent myself running too late.

There is always a “duty dr”- one of the GPs who has no booked patients in their slots. They’ll use the time to answer phone calls, see walk-ins and do paperwork (checking results from hospitals, issuing telephoned prescription requests, reading letters from specialists etc).

The surgery opens at 8:30am and my first patient is at 9am. I’ll use that first 30minutes to briefly read the notes of the patients coming that morning to prepare myself, check to see if there are any blood or Xray results that need actioned and finish any outstanding paperwork.

I’ll have patients between 9am and 11:15am, aiming to catch up on paperwork (referral letters mostly) from those appointments until 11:45am. At 11:45 all the doctors meet for tea and biscuits- we discuss any issues arising fro the morning surgeries, and if there are any housecall requests that have come in we decide who goes to see which patient.

At 12pm we go back to our surgeries for allocated telephone time with patients until 12:30pm. Usually people telephone requesting antibiotics for chest infection, or sicklines, or emergency contraception, to discuss new medications, or to find out if their symptoms warrant an appointment. At 12:30pm I grab a sandwich at my desk and finish up any work from the morning.

Housecalls (usually 1, but can be up to 5, anywhere within a 5mile radius) between 12:45 and 2pm. Most often they are calls to terminally ill or housebound elderly patients or nursing homes. Occasionally they are calls to confirm a death or a post-bereavement courtesy call. Sometimes they are emergencies and you have to stay until an ambulance or the police arrive.

The surgery re-opens at 2pm, with paperwork from the housecalls, preparation for the afternoon surgery or work from the afternoon post delivery taking up the time until 2:30pm. More telephone calls from 2:30-3pm, with the first patient of the afternoon at 3pm and the last patient at 5pm, with paperwork from these patients until the surgery closes at 6pm, and occasionally a final housecall on the way home .

The latest I have personally run is 30minutes, when my first patient of the afternoon surgery turned out to be having a nervous breakdown, which required rather longer than the allotted time to sort out. About 80% of the time I call my patient within 5minutes of their allotted time.

Our system is that the nurses run their own clinics with their own appointment system. If somebody needs blood tests or an ECG I’ll usually ask them to make an appointment with the nurse unless there is a pressing reason why it has to be done immediately, in which case I’ll do it myself. If the nurses have an issue (a wound they’re dressing looks infected, or somebody’s asthma medications need changed) they’ll usually phone one of the GPs to come and give them a hand.

We have quite a few patients who turn up early and expect to be seen sooner, or who turn up 2 minutes before their slot ends but just before the next patient arrives, or who simply arrive late and expect to be seen anyway. Sometimes you can’t blame the doctor, and instead need to blame the other patients!

Barring an emergency 90minutes is just bad time management and disorganisation.

If the doc is late all the time it is poor apoointment management. If my doc charges me for missed appointments or my being late to an appointment then he should be on time or be prepaired to compensate me for lost wages.

Get your appt first thing in the morning or first after lunch and you’ll never be disappointed. Up to the third appointment of the day or the third after lunch and I’m satisfied.

I expect no more than 30 minutes of wait time for a family/primary care doc (barring emergency) and up to an hour for specialists. Then again, I adhere to the above paragraph. Always bring a book too, and/or an ipod.

Nine minutes. Same as I give everyone else.

Guess what? I’m busy and important too. My schedule is complicated and I figure out how to be on time 99.99% of the time. We have an appointment. Stick to it. Late more than nine minutes more than once and I find another doctor.

I changed Dr.'s due to this. My former Dr. routinely was 90 minutes behind! After going thru this twice I changed Dr.'s. My new one has made me wait a total of 30 minutes (3 visits)

I think 15 minutes without explanation is about the limit. The funny thing about Dr’s offices is that if you are late to the appointment, they will bill you for your copay. Do I get to have my copay refunded if you are over an hour late to our appointment?

I had an appointment with an OB/GYN as soon as his office opened. After a couple of hours, I cancelled the appointment, and he stepped into the elevator as I was about to step out of it. Seems that he’d been out delivering a baby from about 4 AM…so yeah, even though usually you can get good results with the first appointment, it’s not a guarantee.

I always carry at least two books with me at all times.

My neuro, who does my Botox for migraines runs hours behind. The issue is he is extremely thorough, and will cover every single tiny detail with every patient. The receptionist is good though, she takes my cell number and I either go to a nearby coffee shop, or head to the mall. She calls when he is close to my name and I head back.

For my regular doc or my little one’s pediatrician? Never waited more than fifteen minutes. I would NOT wait more than thirty - unless I was a last minute squeeze-in.

I have a one hour rule with doctors. At one hour after the appointment I leave if I haven’t seen the person I came to see. No matter where I am in the building, whether I’m in an exam room, in a gown talking to a nurse, wherever. I stop by the front desk and explain, loudly, why I am leaving and that I will not be paying for that appointment. In a few cases the doctor suddenly becomes available but generally they tell me they understand. A couple of visits like this and I’m looking for another doc, there are plenty in the phone book.

It isn’t so much that I mind waiting. It’s that such a gross inability to manage his time tells me that a doctor either doesn’t like his work or just isn’t very good at it.

Ok, I made people wait a long time today.
My first patient of the afternoon was an honest to goodness emergency that took an hour to sort out.

A good 10 minutes of that hour was spent on hold and another 10 was spent on the phone sorting out admission, transport, medications and alerting various people who needed to be in the know as to what was going on.

So yes, the next patient had to wait 45mins, but by doing the minimum paperwork while the next patients were with me I had caught up and managed to see the last patient of the afternoon only 5 minutes late.

Of course I then had 45 minutes of extra paperwork to do, but still…

FWIW I apologised and everyone took it as graciously as possible. People do understand that sometimes patients need longer, and would rather doctors were able to give it to them.

Plus, you know, the “I had an emergency” excuse is easier to believe if you can see the ambulance in the car park.:slight_smile:

Before I was diagnosed with asthma, I called my doc once to get an emergency appointment worked in. I was in respiratory distress, a full-blown asthma attack, but I didn’t know that’s what it was.

The office said to come in at 10:30. Around 11:15, I stumbled up to the desk, said I was really having trouble breathing and would it be soon? Yes, yes, of course, go sit down and shut up. Around 12:30, I called the receptionist from the waiting room – because I pretty much did not have enough energy to muster walking up there and sitting back down again – to ask if they’d forgotten me. I mean, I was sitting out there in the waiting room, hacking and coughing like I had TB or something. Hello, trouble breathing!

The receptionist hung up on me. I was floored. So were the rest of the patients around me, all of whom had waited more than an hour. Several had appointments after me, had arrived after me, and had been seen before me. Ambulatory, breathing patients.

About ten minutes after the hang up – and I’m in tears because I don’t know what else to do besides call 911 and request an ambulance ride to the ER – they finally call me in. I cooled my heels, hacking and coughing for another 20 minutes or so and at 1:00, the doc finally comes in and scolds me for not letting anyone know I was having trouble breathing. They set up a nebulizer treatment and sent me on my way with a script for an asthma inhaler.

Nobody ever said the word “asthma” to me, so it took several more attacks before someone asked me why I didn’t manage my asthma better. “Because you’re the first person who told me what was wrong with me, so now I know what to do… after you tell me about how to manage asthma better.” I was educated on the spot.

That conversation happened about two years after that first asthma attack. Oh yes, I changed doctors. Now I just go to the walk-in clinic, but not unless I have at least three hours to kill. It rarely takes that long. Go figure.

I wouldn’t have any problem keeping myself entertained if the receptionists would simply communicate. Just tell me what’s up. I’ve never had anyone offer to get my cell # and call me when I’m on deck. That would be awesome. In fact, I think that’s what they should do before you even arrive at the office, is call you and say “We’re running 90 minutes late today, can we call you 15 minutes before your time slot or would you like to reschedule?”

Depends on the waiting room. My wife’s retina specialist has a tiny, cramped waiting room with too many chairs and a blaring TV. Waiting there is a nightmare. At least retina problems are not contagious.

Our medical group has a waiting room with plenty of room between rows of seats, no TV, and soft classical music playing. I don’t mind waiting there at all.

Generally they’re thinking “Jesus, I’m super glad I don’t have to deal with this asshole. He’d probably threaten to sue me because a lawyer from an unranked law school said it was a good idea”.

I mean, would you rather the doctor rush your appointment? Would you rather, when you have a heart attack, have our doctor leave your side and say “Actually, I’m going to be late for my office hours with my relatively healthy, able-bodied patients. Hope you don’t mind me checking out now so I’m not more than 15 minutes late for them”.

If your time is really that important (and I’m sure it’s not) simply get one of the first few morning or post-lunch appointments.

Right. It’s unlike my dermatologist will have an emergency, but my ob/gyn you know, delivers babies :p. First appointments help with those that don’t operate or have many emergencies.

I once waited for 90 minutes. And that was the second time with a long wait with that doctor. The previous time it was 45.

I changed doctors. It’s ridiculous. I have a life, too, and a schedule. And IME it’s always been because the doctor overbooks and doesn’t plan that certain people will take longer.

I will wait quite a while for my current doctor, precisely because he will try to sort things out. I am less likely to wait hours for a doctor who tries to give me a treatment that I have already explained that I don’t want. I mean, if my PCP AND my shrink both think that a lap band surgery isn’t a good idea for me, I’m not going to have it done. Particularly if the doc is pushing it on EVERY ONE of his overweight patients (I took a poll in the waiting room). He was eager to refer me to a clinic 30 miles away, when there are plenty of closer clinics. I suspected then, and I suspect now, that he was getting some sort of referral fee from that clinic.

How often is your scenario why the Doctor is late as opposed to poor time management and staffing? Why do you think that the patient’s time is any less important than the Doctors? It is happens one time, then I can understand, but if it tends to happen regularly, then the Doctor is overbooking and I’ll pass on them. Also, if the Doctor is running late, his office staff should be able to communicate that to the patients. And from what I’ve observed, the doctor who is running that late will still rush your appointment.

Not all practices are like that. My son’s pediatrician is generally precise. They rarely run more than a few minutes late for scheduled appointments. Their sick visits because of their unpredictable nature can run a half hour late but that usually doesn’t happen. Sick visits are with the first available Doctors. The first time we went I was impressed with how efficiently everything was organized.

I’m incredibly particular about doctors and I sniff out incompetence quickly. In my immediate family there are 5, more in my extended family. If your doctor can see you for a regularly schedule appointment within the next week and is 1) not new to the area 2) not a recent graduate, your doctor is likely incompetent or has a terrible bedside manner. This only goes for physicians in the US, and I’m not familiar with Tricare.

My PCP had a waiting list of 7 weeks. She is not just a family doctor but also boarded in internal medicine. I’d rather wait for her (and again, I never wait much since I get the after-lunch appointments) and have the confidence that she’s truly smart and knowledgeable and does twice the required # of CME’s than an idiot who graduated from delinquent U, has been sued 3 times in the past month and has been in and out of rehab - but! had the first available appointment and runs on time.

Oh, for the record, my various family members range from making patients wait an hour to 90 minutes routinely to never a wait of more than 5. I’m not defending either, I’m just saying that lots of factors are at play - competence, specialists (surgeons, ob/gyn’s, etc) etc to simply write off a doctor for keeping you waiting.

I’ve personally never seen the “overbooking” some people are referring to.