You should go run WalMart because you are perfect and clearly know the best things to say and do in every situation. Maybe you could be President of the World because you are perfect and know the right course of action in every situation. God, if only we had you to lead us the right way through wrong times.
I think it’s the shoppers responsibility to not kill other shoppers. Unless WalMart is going to equip shoppers with remote controls so they can guide their every move through the store I don’t think there is much else they can do to prevent this.
And what’s with all the people saying cops should have been at the store to crowd control? Do you have any idea how many stores have mobs outside them every BF? Should the entire police force work every BF to provide cost free security for every store on the planet? Then all you clowns would bitch because our tax dollars are going to provide free security for huge corporations, who the fuck do they think they are etc…
The only responsible parties here are the fucking shoppers. No one else.
There was a theme in the photos of the people who did it, if you know what I mean.
(And I spelt it all perfect)
No. Do tell.
It is customary here at the Straight Dope Message Board to read a thread before replying. If you had, you would know that it has already been noted that the vast majority of shoppers were black.
It would be appreciated if you could be a little more creative in your next trolling attempt. Thank you.
“Somehow, despite all our elaborate crowd control precautions of having doors on our buildings…”
So in other words if you yell fire in a crowded theater and people die in the ensuing panic you don’t bear any responsibility?
If you create a situation where a stampede is likely, you bear at least partial responsibility for the stampede.
As someone who has hired police officers for crowd control, I can guarantee you that in no way whatsoever to tax dollars come in to play. It is certainly not a “free” service provided by the PD. lt is called hiring a “pay duty officer”. Currently, I beleive the going rate in this city is $60 per hour for each officers for a minimum of three hours each. If four or more officers are needed, we have to hire a sergeant at $68 per hour (min. 3 hrs.) If we need more officers, Staff Sergeants must be fired $75 /hr 3hr min.
If any police equipment is required we are invoiced at the end of the month.
It is not unusual to see 4-6 officers in front of a nightclub on a Friday night, so I don’t doubt they can get some for select “high risk” stores.
lol ur such a racist!
Look at the animal looks in their eyes like gorillas chasing down a target, is what I meant.
Sorry, I can’t get to Bentonville, Arkansas right this second.
IOW, you’re being an ass and you know it.
Because they run studies that show the average American will only spend $687 or something on Christmas this year, and that’s down from last year. If you get them to spend $500 of that in your store on Friday morning, you might last another year in retail. And the trick is believed to be getting them into your store - once in they will fill their carts with not only the $100 DVD player, but all sorts on impulse purchases.
The Average American ALWAYS overspends on Christmas. The busiest day is the Saturday before Christmas. So I don’t think retailers would really HAVE to do this, but they all think they need to.
I really dislike Black Friday - and from everyone I hear in the retail industry (I know people who work for Kohl’s, Target and Best Buy), they don’t like it either. But there is an arms race going on between the retails, being fed by the customers. I hang on another board that is budget oriented. And people were saying things like “well, I’m not going to give Best Buy any of my Christmas dollars, they didn’t have anything worth shopping for on Black Friday.” “Target’s ad was lousy, Wal-Mart is getting all my money this year.”
It isn’t going to stop - you can’t blame retailers for giving customers what they demand - if they don’t, they don’t stay in business. You can’t blame customers for trying to maximize their dollar - few of us can really afford the life we want, and if we can save $30 here and there we can get closer. The only way it will stop is if it becomes unprofitable (i.e. lots of post holiday PTSD lawsuits and injury lawsuits against the stores and/or there is a lot of media outcry about this - including starting next Halloween when the media starts to say 'what are retail giants doing to keep their employees from getting trampled and their customers from shooting each other"), or if it gets legislated - and I don’t think that will happen.
O, u got us gud! :rolleyes:
It’s a shame because it really wouldn’t have cost that much money for Walmart to have hired a few off duty police officers for the “high risk” stores.
I wonder if part of the problem is that individual executives and managers are reluctant to spell out what exactly the criteria are for determining whether a store is (relatively) “high risk.”
Wait.
The guy was trampled by gorillas?
These Black Friday promotions are really getting out of hand.
lol ur such a troll omg!
Go away. I haven’t seen a single post of yours that wasn’t incomprehensible and stupid, and quite a few have been pretty trollish.
Nope, I was answering Hirka T’Bawa’s post. No, we are not currently in the worst depression since the Great Depression.
:rolleyes:
No, that would be Gorilla Friday.
Which, as previously noted, only occurs at Target.
As famously depicted in the Cary Grant film His Gorilla Friday.
my mistake.
Fair enough. I was under the impression that folks thought that WM should have had cops on scene for crowd control.
Still doesn’t change the fact that shoppers shouldn’t kill other shoppers to get a good deal. WM should stop offering tantalizing sales IMMEDIATELY!!
I know. I’m just mad as hell and sickened by the whole thing and I don’t care if they’re gangbangers–is the world their video game or something? God knows they have no problem being Baby Daddies*, you’d think they’d stop and think–hey, we’re in a TOY store…
*I am not about to become PC about Baby Daddies or gang bangers for that matter.
RE the topic of this thread: I hope WallyWorld does get sued and suffers some financially. It seems to be the only way Corporate America pays attention to people. I don’t think WM is completely to blame–I wish we could have some kind of walk of shame for all the morons who chanted and rushed in. Group Think scares me. No wonder I dislike crowds. I see they released the name of the victim. And I again appalled at the comments from the shoppers after the death. Kudos to those brave souls who tried to do CPR. And for those who want to make the reluctance to perform CPR a racial issue, it’s not. The AHA (American Heart Association) has noticed a reluctance on the part of health care personnel and others to perform mouth to mouth.
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Here is the salient passage:
*I cannot access the relevant abstracts, but here they are, FYI:
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Brenner BE, Kauffman J. Reluctance of internists and medical nurses to perform mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Arch Intern Med. 1993;153:1763-1769.[Abstract]
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Ornato JP, Hallagan LF, McMahan SB, Peeples EH, Rostafinski AG. Attitudes of BCLS instructors about mouth-to-mouth resuscitation during the AIDS epidemic. Ann Emerg Med. 1990;19:151-156.[Medline] [Order article via Infotrieve]
Just sayin’.