# Wal-Mart Ice Cream doesn't melt, apparently **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 25, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059 "2014-07-25T21:35:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/1 "2014-07-25T21:35:44Z")
> **[Walmart's Ice Cream Sandwiches Don't Melt In The Sun](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/walmart-ice-cream-sandwiches_n_5621240?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)** > > Walmart's Ice Cream Sandwiches Don't Melt In The Sun > [@](#): > > The discovery was made by a local mom, Christie Watson, who noticed that a Great Value ice cream sandwich her son left out on their patio table hadn’t fully melted – even though it had been sitting out for 12 hours on an 80-degree day. Watson left a second ice cream sandwich out overnight with the same results, WCPO reports. > > “What am I feeding to my children?” she asked, appalled. Wal-Mart responded that their ice cream contains a lot of cream, and therefore melta at a slower rate. Yeah > [@](#): > > (TV station) WCPO conducted an experiment of their own, leaving out a third Walmart sandwich alongside a Klondike bar and a pint of Haagen Dazs ice cream. The Haagen Dazs ice cream – which contains only cream, milk, sugar, eggs and vanilla, and no gums – melted fastest. The Klondike bar melted, too. > > “The Walmart sandwich, though it melted a bit, remained the most solid in appearance, and still looked like a sandwich,” the station reported. See – THIS is why I miss the old Breyer’s Ice Cream. I refuse to buy it since the new management started adding gums. I didn’t realize that Haagen Dazs still doesn’t. I’ll have to try some again. Pepper Mill claims that Turkey Hill doesn’t, either. She wasn’t surprised about the Wal-Mart stuff though. “Sea weed doesn’t melt” she said. ---
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/2 "2014-07-25T22:49:37Z")
Right you are! The other day, I bought some ice cream on a whim; I hardly ever do. It was Breyer’s Cookies & Cream, formerly a delicious treat. I noticed the sad difference right away – it felt completely wrong in my mouth. I didn’t eat any more of it. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/3 "2014-07-26T00:23:51Z")
> [@](#): > > “What am I feeding to my children?” she asked, appalled. Did she think ice cream sandwiches were health food? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/4 "2014-07-26T00:31:34Z")
> [@Renee](#): > > Did she think ice cream sandwiches were health food? [cheap shot] No, just that they were food. [/cheap shot] ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/5 "2014-07-26T00:34:59Z")
Hey, they call it a sandwich. It’s gotta be good for you. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/6 "2014-07-26T00:43:09Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > See – THIS is why I miss the old Breyer’s Ice Cream. I refuse to buy it since the new management started adding gums. I couldn’t agree more. The mouthfeel is all wrong. My favorite growing up was the vanilla bean with fudge swirl. It’s also weirdly whipped or something, or maybe that’s partly the gum additive. Gross. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/7 "2014-07-26T00:43:26Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > Right you are! The other day, I bought some ice cream on a whim; I hardly ever do. It was Breyer’s Cookies & Cream, formerly a delicious treat. I noticed the sad difference right away – it felt completely wrong in my mouth. I didn’t eat any more of it. Gotta read the packaging. It says it’s a (IIRC) “frozen dairy dessert,” not “ice cream.” That’s how you tell. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/8 "2014-07-26T00:53:59Z")
There are formal rules for what you can call “ice cream.” Presumably the Breyer’s product doesn’t qualify. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/9 "2014-07-26T00:59:08Z")
this was done at the urging of parents. ice cream drips on clothes and furniture by kids creates a mess. give the kids a sugary treat that looks like ice cream and they are happy. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/10 "2014-07-26T02:49:44Z")
I suspect that it has more to do with whipping the stuff as it’s frozen so that it looks like more than it is than it does with any ingredients which are in it. But that’s not nearly as interesting as, “OMG! My food is made of chemicals!” I’d make a lousy HuffPo editor. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/11 "2014-07-26T03:16:55Z")
And in defence of gums, they are soluble fiber and good for you, making a box of WalMart ice “creme” sandwiches good for you. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/12 "2014-07-26T03:41:08Z")
I’ve ranted about this before. It’s not ice cream, it’s “frozen dairy dessert”, and it’s gross. It doesn’t melt, it tastes oily, and it’s nothing at all like ice cream. I will pay more for ice cream that has cream, milk, sugar, eggs, vanilla and those alone. it’s worth it to me. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/13 "2014-07-26T03:42:29Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Gotta read the packaging. It says it’s a (IIRC) “frozen dairy dessert,” not “ice cream.” That’s how you tell. Shoulda read the thread… yes, exactly. My husband likes it fine; I think it’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/14 "2014-07-26T03:46:47Z")
I like how the mom in the article asks “What am I feeding my children?” in response to two experiments with leaving the food outside. Instead of, you know, checking out the ingredients list. Here is what you are feeding your children. > [@](#): > > Ice Cream (Milk, Cream, Buttermilk, Sugar, Whey, Corn Syrup, Contains 1% Or Less of Mono-And Diglycerides, Vanilla Extract, Guar Gum, Calcium Sulfate, Carob Bean Gum, Cellulose Gum, Carrageenan, Artificial Flavor, Annatto For Color), Wafers (Wheat Flour, Sugar, Soybean Oil, Palm Oil, Cocoa, Dextrose, Caramel Color, Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Flour, Food Starch-Modified, Salt Soy Lecithin, Baking Soda, Artificial Flavor). Now you know! ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/15 "2014-07-26T11:01:42Z")
Well yes, how could you grow up, have kids, and still be surprised that cheap ‘Ice Cream’ is frozen marshmallow? Around here, they’ve done the same thing to ‘flavoured milk’. Which was milk with added suger syrup when I was a kid (post-mix), then pre-mix (carton), and now is no longer called ‘flavoured milk’ on the carton - although the retailers and the public still use that term. What I can get now is called “Chocolate \” (note the clever way \ is substituted for term “milk”), and the difference is that Gum has been used to replace the Milk Fat. You can buy a ‘light’ version as well as a non-light version: both are effectively fat-free, but the gum recipe is different. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/16 "2014-07-26T11:41:20Z")
Quiescently frozen dairy confection > [@](#): > > § 39.27. Quiescently frozen dairy confection. > > Quiescently frozen dairy confection is the frozen product made from milk products, sweetening agents, harmless natural or artificial flavoring and water. It may contain harmless coloring, and any safe and suitable functional ingredient approved by the Department. The finished product contains not less than 13% by weight of total milk solids and not less than 33% by weight of total solids. The name of the food is quiescently frozen dairy confection. In the manufacture of this product, freezing has not been accomplished by stirring or agitation—generally known as quiescently freezing. In the production of this quiescently frozen dairy confection, no processing or mixing prior to quiescent freezing shall be used that develops in the finished confection mix any physical expansion in excess of 10%. This confection must be manufactured in the form of servings, individually packaged, bagged or otherwise wrapped, properly labeled and purveyed to the consumer in its original factory filled package. The individually wrapped confection need not be labeled if it is contained in a multiple package which is properly labeled and is purveyed unopened to the consumer. In addition to all other required information, the label shall contain a complete list of ingredients, in accordance with 21 CFR 101.4 and 101.22 (relating to food; designation of ingredients and foods; labeling of spices, flavorings, colorings and chemical preservatives). > Source > The provisions of this § 39.27 adopted March 25, 1970; amended June 29, 1984, effective June 30, 1984, 14 Pa.B. 2242. Immediately preceding text appears at serial pages (1514) to (1515). > [@](#): > > qui·es·cent adjective -sənt > : not active > > medical : not now developing or causing symptoms > > Full Definition of QUIESCENT > > 1 > : marked by inactivity or repose : tranquilly at rest > 2 > : causing no trouble or symptoms \ > — qui·es·cent·ly adverb ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/17 "2014-07-26T13:44:08Z")
For all you folks saying “Well, what did they EXPECT to be in them?” or “this is why they don’t actually call it _Ice Cream_”, I’d like to say that: 1.) They DO call it “Ice Cream” on the Wal-Mart “Great Value” package: [https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=AwrB8prJr9NTGQIALz.JzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTIzN3RtaG1yBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMxMWNhNzM1OGZiYTM5MWYyNWNjYmNmNzZkODQ4YWNmNwRncG9zAzEwBGl0A2Jpbmc-?back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DWalMart%2BGreat%2BValue%2BIce%2BCream%2BSandwiches%26fr%3Dyfp-t-901%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D10&w=267&h=309&imgurl=www.dldewey.com%2Fimages%2Ficsand.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dldewey.com%2Fcolumns%2Fadditives.htm&size=36.0KB&name=\Walmart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches\<%2Fb\>&p=WalMart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches&oid=11ca7358fba391f25ccbcf76d848acf7&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-901&tt=\Walmart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches\<%2Fb\>&b=0&ni=112&no=10&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11ctfbh3n&sigb=1483mqjca&sigi=1116verro&sigt=11fcuen4e&sign=11fcuen4e&.crumb=MTzj310aM7A&fr=yfp-t-901](https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8prJr9NTGQIALz.JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIzN3RtaG1yBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMxMWNhNzM1OGZiYTM5MWYyNWNjYmNmNzZkODQ4YWNmNwRncG9zAzEwBGl0A2Jpbmc-?back=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3DWalMart%2BGreat%2BValue%2BIce%2BCream%2BSandwiches%26fr%3Dyfp-t-901%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D10&w=267&h=309&imgurl=www.dldewey.com%2Fimages%2Ficsand.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dldewey.com%2Fcolumns%2Fadditives.htm&size=36.0KB&name=%3Cb%3EWalmart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches%3C%2Fb%3E&p=WalMart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches&oid=11ca7358fba391f25ccbcf76d848acf7&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-901&tt=%3Cb%3EWalmart+Great+Value+Ice+Cream+Sandwiches%3C%2Fb%3E&b=0&ni=112&no=10&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11ctfbh3n&sigb=1483mqjca&sigi=1116verro&sigt=11fcuen4e&sign=11fcuen4e&.crumb=MTzj310aM7A&fr=yfp-t-901) 2.) The original outrage was not over there being adulterants in the ice cream, but that IT DIDN’T MELT. This suggests that, rather than having adulterants in the ice cream, the “ice cream” seems to be mainly made out of adulterants. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/18 "2014-07-26T14:11:46Z")
Yet more proof Walmart cant win. Willie Wonka was worshiped for doing the same thing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/19 "2014-07-26T14:45:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Yet more proof Walmart cant win. Willie Wonka was worshiped for doing the same thing. 😃 It’d be more interesting if the WalMart ice cream made you turn blue and blow up, or float, or something. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059/20 "2014-07-26T14:50:48Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It’d be more interesting if the WalMart ice cream made you turn blue and blow up, or float, or something. The Walmart Lifting Fizzy Drinks are made in China and you barely clear the countertop. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-ice-cream-doesnt-melt-apparently/694059.md?page=2)