# Wal-Mart to reach another new low

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143 "2003-06-06T18:32:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/21 "2003-06-07T00:16:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Flowerchild \*  
> \*\*Some of those cosmo titles are downright nasty,  
> I saw one that said '100 ways to please your man, (our favorite involves a glazed doughnut)"
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> I dont aggree with wal-mart, but jesus that seems nasty for the front of a magazine \*\*

Speaking as a man who is mightily pleased when my wife brings me a glazed donut, I fail to see the nastiness ? 😕

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/22 "2003-06-07T00:59:37Z")

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Cosmo is generally not known for their cooking section. I am probably being wooshed here but based on other cosmo covers I have seen this is supposed to be a double entendre.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/23 "2003-06-07T01:44:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Spiny Norman \*  
> \*\*Speaking as a man who is mightily pleased when my wife brings me a glazed donut, I fail to see the nastiness ? 😕 \*\*

Do we even want to know where she **sticks** the donut? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/24 "2003-06-07T03:15:06Z")

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I saw the same article and noticed, or did not notice if Walmart was going to ban \*\*Men’s Health \*\* or any thing like it, as the titles are just as sensational ( only more masculine) and the men are always barechested hotties.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/25 "2003-06-07T03:37:27Z")

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Oh yes. Gay porn for men who are too timid to buy gay porn (as well as a few workout enthusiasts, and there may be a bit of a Venn diagram thing going on there).

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/26 "2003-06-07T05:49:07Z")

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What’s the matter with obscuring the cover of _Maxim, FHM, Stuff_ and their ilk in the same fashion as _Cosmopolitan_ instead of banning them outright?

Wal\*Mart, you dumbass.

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**Author:** ![typhoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed8c4c/32.png) [@typhoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typhoon)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/27 "2003-06-07T05:57:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by I Love Me, Vol. I \*  
> **…I hate their preachy, cult-like morality. I hate the old, disabled greeters that only get in your way-- while at the same time prostituting themselves just so the Walton family can feel like they are doing a “good thing” even though the door-monkeys are just more icing to cover up Wal-Mart’s evil, Nazi-Empire cake…**

How the hell does every thread in this forum somehow involve someone or something being a Nazi? Did I accidentally stumble into the freaking History Channel forums or something? Is “goat-felchers” passé?

Anyway, I wish I could avoid Wal-Mart and similar places. My blood pressure would be lower. This is easier said than done because they have a funny habit of expanding their product base until they’re in direct competition with every other store in town and undercutting them all out of business. The façade that corporate America puts on to appease any Christian group that bitches enough is disturbing; it’s like a fake world in a big red, white, and blue–colored bubble. I wonder why some people feel everyone should change but themselves to suit their lifestyles. Maybe if corporations stopped bending over for every tit-phobic soccer mom with a complaint, we could start killing this disease. It’s not like they’ve left any competition in most places (like my town). They could start selling _Hustlers_ and rubber dildos at the check-out lines, and there’d be fuck-all we could do about it at this point.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/28 "2003-06-07T06:54:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe K \*  
> What’s the matter with obscuring the cover of _Maxim, FHM, Stuff_ and their ilk in the same fashion as _Cosmopolitan_ instead of banning them outright?
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> Wal\*Mart, you dumbass.

So they can continue to sell the magazines.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/29 "2003-06-07T06:57:06Z")

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Oh, Oops. Misread post. Please disregard:D

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/30 "2003-06-07T07:32:09Z")

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Mall-Wart is the incubus in a suit. Everything I’ve read about their policies confirms my decision to never give them my business again.

Let’s look righteous to the Christian coalition, et. al., while shredding records, denying the existence of safety reports, and doing everything to escape responsibility for injuries that we’ve caused. Yes, I’m sure that God is pleased with that behavior.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/31 "2003-06-07T07:46:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> \*\*Oh yes. Gay porn for men who are too timid to buy gay porn (as well as a few workout enthusiasts, and there may be a bit of a Venn diagram thing going on there). \*\*

Heh…I used to (and still do) say the same thing about the _International Male_ catalog. Porn for the closeted.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/32 "2003-06-07T22:55:45Z")

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So when’s Wal-Mart gonna ban Joan Collins’ novels?

(Not that that would be a _bad_ thing, but still…)

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/33 "2003-06-07T22:59:20Z")

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I use the magazine covers to decide which particular trashy magazine I want to buy…and then I buy Marie Claire anyway.

But still, how can you tell which one is the most interesting if you can’t read the cover?

Go Wal-Mart, preserving Free speech in the land of the Free!

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**Author:** ![Flowerchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flowerchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flowerchild)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/34 "2003-06-07T23:29:10Z")

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I vote that everyone who hates wal-mat as much as I, which is quite a bit. that you all go to target! I LOVE TARGET, the store is better in every way, except perhaps in price, other than that, I LOVE TARGET!! take all your bussiness to TARGET, shut wallyworld DOWN, and long live target!

::End Hijack:

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/35 "2003-06-08T00:32:49Z")

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> If the poor little angel were to type in the word ‘titmouse’, he get a screen shot of a older woman with her head cocked slightly to the side, hair gathered in a tight bun, arms akimbo with a stern face and pursed lips.

Oh man, that’s **hot**.

What?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/36 "2003-06-08T00:42:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> \*\*Oh yes. Gay porn for men who are too timid to buy gay porn (as well as a few workout enthusiasts, and there may be a bit of a Venn diagram thing going on there). \*\*

Well, my dad subs to Men’s Health, but he’s not gay. (At least, I HOPE he’s not!)

He gets it for the articles on fitness, nutrition, recipes, etc.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/37 "2003-06-08T00:48:11Z")

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**Flowerchild** , there isn’t one around here. This is why we go to walmart.

I wouldn’t if there were another option.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/38 "2003-06-08T01:05:07Z")

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Wal-Mart is what Target will look like in five years, anyway.  
**beagledave** , she sticks it where the sun don’t shine when she’s asked to fetch a donut. 😉

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/39 "2003-06-08T01:27:24Z")

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OK, here we go. Lucki is about to defend Wal-Mart.

They have every right to do whatever it is they want to in order to please/appease their customer base. If the families that come in to Wal-Mart are offended by the covers of these magazines, then Wal-Mart probably should cover them up. Nobody’s making you shop there.

And for the people who attack them for destroying competition, do you know how they do that? They offer a wider selection and lower prices on everything. This is the capitalist version of the socialist dream: they make it so that more common people than ever have a chance at owning the stuff that they need and want. IMHO, this is a really good thing. Is shopping there a less individual and personal experience? Sure. But I’m betting that most working-class people would rather be able to buy what they need at the lowest prices than be able to buy them from their neighbor, Friendly Sam, who would know their name and be really helpful when it came to selection.

I never buy anything from their music section, because they censor their music. Guess what? They’ve made a pretty clear statement that if I’m looking to buy music with offensive language, they don’t need my business. That’s up to them. Feel free to hate their store, but I can’t think of anything that Wal-Mart has that other places don’t. If you’d rather pay more to have better atmosphere, or to support a business that shares your views, go for it.

LC

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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wal-mart-to-reach-another-new-low/180143/40 "2003-06-08T09:17:19Z")

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\*\* Lucki Chaarms\*\*, they have that lower pricing by not paying their employees a living wage or giving (most of them) health insurance or other benefits. Wal-mart successfully lowers the prevailing wage in retail whenever they move in, making it even more difficult for working class families to make ends meet. (Let’s not even get into the widespread racial and gender discrimination, the use of overseas sweat shop labor mis-labelled as “Made in America” or the other deceptive practices used throughout the company). And their employees can’t just quit because there are no other jobs due to Wal-mart’s competitive edge. Believe in capitalism? Great, so do I, but the workers have to be able to compete on (near) equal footing with management. Wal-mart could allow its employees to unionize and still have a big jump on competition (due to its sheer size and bulk buying power) and also be able to make heavy profits. I don’t pay more to have a better atmosphere, I pay more to support justice in my community.

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