# Waldorf Salad: Chop or Julienne?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 6, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887 "2009-06-06T00:43:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/1 "2009-06-06T00:43:24Z")

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So my whole life I’ve been told that Waldorf salads are made with chopped ingredients. It’s even in my mom and aunt’s old Girl Scout handbooks (old enough to tell me to carry some hamburger in my pocket on a hike, so pretty venerable).

Now Wikipedia is claiming that the apple and celery are julienned. Julienned! They don’t even have a cite beyond the picture on the page! All of the links say chop the ingredients. So where did this come from?

Have you ever had julienned Waldorf? (Or just seen it- I know not everyone thinks apples, celery, and mayo are a delicious combination.)

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**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/2 "2009-06-06T01:18:09Z")

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I cook a lot and come from a long line of cooks. I’m very well-read on recipes and cooking. I have never in all my born days heard of a Waldorf salad that had julienned ingredients.

Maybe that’s a noveau, trendy version, but … nope. Not on MY table. 😃

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/3 "2009-06-06T01:20:16Z")

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Hassan chop!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/4 "2009-06-06T01:30:44Z")

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I took a girl named Julie Ann to the Waldorf once. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/5 "2009-06-06T01:46:32Z")

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All I know is that a Waldorf salad includes:

Celery!  
Apples!  
Walnuts!  
Grapes!  
In mayonnaise!

That’s from watching **Fawlty Towers**. I’ve never had one, but would like to try. Then I 'll know what all the fuss was about.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/6 "2009-06-06T02:41:20Z")

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The [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_salad) article says:

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> A Waldorf salad consists of julienned apple and celery, chopped walnuts, grapes, and mayonnaise or a mayonnaise-based dressing.

This leads me to read it as only the apple and celery are [julienned](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julienned)

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/7 "2009-06-06T02:45:48Z")

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Chopped! Whoever said julienned is WRONG!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/8 "2009-06-06T02:48:33Z")

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> [@Mach Tuck](#):
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> All I know is that a Waldorf salad includes:
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> Celery!  
> Apples!  
> Walnuts!  
> Grapes!  
> In mayonnaise!
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> That’s from watching **Fawlty Towers**. I’ve never had one, but would like to try. Then I 'll know what all the fuss was about.

That’s pretty much it. It’s basically a side dish. I can’t imagine anyone wanting it as their entire meal.

Let alone bribing a hotelier twenty pounds to keep the kitchen open long enough to serve it.

ETA: and btw, the ingredients are chopped (well, diced for the apples), not julienned.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/9 "2009-06-06T03:12:09Z")

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I was tired of mayonaisse dressing, so one time I made a Waldorf and used a raspberry vinagarette. That’s about all I ever use now.

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**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/10 "2009-06-06T15:01:04Z")

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Since it’s Wikipedia, if it’s wrong, _change it_! 🙂

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**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/waldorf-salad-chop-or-julienne/498887/11 "2009-06-06T16:28:58Z")

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I’ve never seen a Waldorf salad with anything julienned. The Better Homes and Gardens cookbook and Joy of Cooking both say everything should be chopped (except grapes–those are cut in half). I don’t think a julienned Waldorf salad would be appealing. I like the chunks of apple.
