# Walken and Thing Fish fight **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046 "2023-10-24T21:36:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/41 "2023-10-25T17:16:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > No idea, but it’s almost like you can see the spittle flying out of his mouth when you read his posts. God, you again with your lunatic conspiracy theory, for which you made outlandish claims and offered exactly zero evidence. You were like Rudy Giuliani outside Four Seasons Total Landscaping with brown hair dye dripping down the side of your head. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/42 "2023-10-25T17:16:57Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > You deliberately misrepresented my posts in order to paint me as someone that supported Hamas murdering innocent civilians. Liar, liar, pants on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/43 "2023-10-25T17:17:40Z")
(wipes spittle off my monitor) You are a funny, funny little man. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/44 "2023-10-25T17:25:12Z")
You described my posts as “disgusting” and “sickening”, so you were clearly insinuating that I supported what Hamas did. For that, I will not forgive you. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/45 "2023-10-25T17:29:28Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > so you were clearly insinuating that I supported what Hamas did No, I fucking wasn’t, you dumb motherfucker. I used to think you were confused about this point, but it was explained to you very thoroughly, with far more patience and empathy than your behavior has merited, by a posted who is a better person than I: > [@Reply to Babale re: Hamas and Israel](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reply-to-babale-re-hamas-and-israel/991469/16): > > Okay, first a thank you to @Walken_After_Midnight, @Babale and especially @What_Exit for taking things out of the parent thread. Much appreciated. Okay, @Walken_After_Midnight - I think that @Thing.Fish is largely correct, in that both you and @Babale are probably closer to common ground than you think, but if I had to come down on one side, I do think you’re in the wrong. Not (!) that I think you’re a troll, but you’re making some really poor arguments. So, I’m going to focus on that, not a… Since you continue with this delusional assertion - just as you continued to assert that I want to ethnically cleanse the Gazans and chiding me by comparing me to “moderate Israelis” whose positions I not only agree with but _[had been advocating the whole time](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reply-to-babale-re-hamas-and-israel/991469/5)_ - I can only conclude that you are not posting in good faith. You are either a troll, or blinded by irrational hatred of Israel, or the densest being on two legs. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/46 "2023-10-25T17:34:26Z")
Where did I assert that you want to “ethnically cleanse the Gazans”? You said I “continued to assert”, implying I did so more than once. Show me the cites, so I can see for myself what you claim. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/47 "2023-10-25T17:38:59Z")
> [@Reply to Babale re: Hamas and Israel](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reply-to-babale-re-hamas-and-israel/991469/1): > > I stand with moderates like these, those who are capable of the self-reflection and humanity that is needed to resolve a generations-long intercommunal conflict, and something that you are incapable of. You dumb schmuck. **It’s a blinkered ultra-partisan mindset like yours that will lead to generations more conflict and thousands more deaths of innocent people, from both sides.** > [@Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/79): > > Go for it. **I will take it that your view is that this is the day to thump our chests and call for the the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.** > [@Will Israel destroy Hamas](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-destroy-hamas/991277/53): > > > [@Will Israel destroy Hamas](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-destroy-hamas/991277/33): > > > > How about instead of dropping snarky half-hearted _bOtH sIdEs_ in every thread about this issue you go ahead and let me know what it is that Israel has done that even remotely approaches what Hamas does on a daily basis? > > I think you wear blinkers. In this sentence you equate Hamas and the Palestinians as the same. I do not defend Hamas. **I do defend the right of the Palestinian people to a life of dignity and self-determination. I’m not at all clear you believe in either of these things.** [BTW, WTF? Nowhere in my post do I equate Hamas and Palestinians. If I was equating Hamas and Palestinians I’d ask you to show me heinous crimes committed by Palestinians, but since Hamas!=Palestinians that’s not what I did. More lies…] ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/48 "2023-10-25T18:03:28Z")
Only one of your cites comes close to supporting your claim. That comment was made after you were rude after I made a post that was supportive of Palestinians, as part of the overall Israel-Palestine issue. Even though Israeli newspapers like Haaretz were bringing up and being supportive of the perspective of Palestinians before I did, I will accept that it was in a period of emotion and it could have waited an additional day. The other comments were only made after you had equated me with supporting the murder of innocent civilians. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/49 "2023-10-25T18:09:06Z")
On Twitter, thousands of people are supporting [Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale), so they must be right. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/50 "2023-10-25T18:10:53Z")
What the hell are you talking about this time? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/51 "2023-10-25T18:23:09Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I used to think you were confused about this point, but it was explained to you very thoroughly, with far more patience and empathy than your behavior has merited, by a posted who is a better person than I: Thank you for the compliment, although I deny the assertation that I’m a better person than you are. Because of my own issues though, I’m keeping out of the subject, and trying (often failing, but TRYING) to be as dispassionate as possible about it. Because about 2-3 minutes into any talk about it an my emotions go through the roof. I’m not going to say anymore past the post you quoted, because it’s just going to throw more wood on the fire, but for the record, I still stand behind everything I typed then. I still don’t think **Walken** is a troll, but they’re still mistaken or missing the reasons for the results. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/52 "2023-10-25T19:13:15Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Only one of your cites comes close to supporting your claim. That comment was made after you were rude after I made a post that was supportive of Palestinians, as part of the overall Israel-Palestine issue. Even though Israeli newspapers like Haaretz were bringing up and being supportive of the perspective of Palestinians before I did, I will accept that it was in a period of emotion and it could have waited an additional day. As someone very much on the outside looking in, is it then possible that if you made one comment that indicated you thought that Babale advocates for ethnic cleansing, and never previously took it back but rather posted other times that seemed to at least imply that you still felt that way, it would be reasonable to read you as pushing that view on multiple occasions? (Even if that wasn’t your intention at all.) It’s good that you don’t actually think that, and the one unambiguous assertion was made while angry and not really something you actually believed, but you should understand why it may have come across that way. Just putting in my two cents on just one part of what is clearly a wide and ongoing feud that I really have no intention of participating in. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/53 "2023-10-25T19:41:52Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I still don’t think **Walken** is a troll, but they’re still mistaken or missing the reasons for the results. Obviously, I think it is you that are the one that is mistaken or missing the reasons. > [@Atamasama](#): > > As someone very much on the outside looking in, is it then possible that if you made one comment that indicated you thought that Babale advocates for ethnic cleansing, and never previously took it back but rather posted other times that seemed to at least imply that you still felt that way, it would be reasonable to read you as pushing that view on multiple occasions? (Even if that wasn’t your intention at all.) No, I would not agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/54 "2023-10-25T19:43:16Z")
Fwiw, i thought that @Walken_After_Midnight believed @Babale advocated genocide, too. I am happy to read that i was mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/55 "2023-10-25T19:43:58Z")
And yes, i guess i am blurring any distinction between genocide and ethnic cleansing. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/56 "2023-10-25T19:48:25Z")
Babale Fish: [![](https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/W8CeDXSW2LIEXzSKCjAWn_YuSvo=/1000x750/filters:no_upscale()/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/Blobfish-ugly-470.jpg) ](https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/W8CeDXSW2LIEXzSKCjAWn_YuSvo=/1000x750/filters:no_upscale()/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/Blobfish-ugly-470.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/57 "2023-10-25T19:53:54Z")
I agree! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/58 "2023-10-25T19:55:23Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Babale Fish Not at all. The Babale is a majestic creature with the body and legs of a baboon and the head and tail of a sperm whale. It possesses the size and swimming capability of the whale, as well as a devestating sonic attack, but also the agility and mobility of the baboon. I don’t have any surviving photographs of the noble Babale, but I found this picture online of its cousin, the Moosale, which shares the Babale’s size and profile but possesses the hooves and body of a moose. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3uA8EOV6PfE/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3uA8EOV6PfE/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/59 "2023-10-25T19:55:33Z")
okay, now find a Walken fish ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046/60 "2023-10-25T19:58:20Z")
Not so awfully challenging 😉 [![](https://i.etsystatic.com/13575415/r/il/6f0bcf/1218518041/il_570xN.1218518041_7ujm.jpg) ](https://i.etsystatic.com/13575415/r/il/6f0bcf/1218518041/il_570xN.1218518041_7ujm.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walken-and-thing-fish-fight/992046.md?page=4)