# Wall of Shame

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 19, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696 "2012-06-19T22:56:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/21 "2012-06-20T16:03:01Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Unless you limit such a list to those people who were “regular posters” for some span of time before getting banned, the list would run into the thousands! We fail to praise the work of the Mods in this regard. They must be banning dozens of one-timers (socks, spammers, trolls and garden variety shit) every day.
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> A recent thread dealing with “active users” prompted **ntucker** to create a file back in November last year that had the vital statistics on every UserID. There were thousands of people who had posted less than twice who had been banned. I propose we don’t need that! On the other hand, there were in the range of a hundred or more who had posted more than a few dozen times who were later banned. That might be a fun list to keep handy for those who don’t learn from mere warnings. I posted such a list in a recent thread. I’ll try to locate that post for you. 🙂
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> ETA: here you go: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15079944&postcount=85](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15079944&postcount=85)

Thanks for this. I didn’t realize some of these were banned.

I’d have a certain morbid interest in seeing a list of essentially non-troll posters who attracted a lot of attention on their way to being banned–I’m thinking of people like **smashthestate** (probably the most fascinating poster we’ve had who absolutely needed to go) and **cesario** (who I am infinitely glad to see gone, but who also demonstrated very eloquently how inappropriate one could be while still staying firmly within the rules almost all of the time). I realize this isn’t practical on any established basis, but it is interesting to muse about.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/22 "2012-06-20T16:06:00Z")

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> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#):
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> People keep saying this, but I don’t believe it. Has that ever actually happened? Or is this just a theoretical concern?

You have no idea. There are some persistent loons who have registered hundreds, maybe thousands of socks.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/23 "2012-06-20T16:09:40Z")

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> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#):
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> People keep saying this, but I don’t believe it. Has that ever actually happened? Or is this just a theoretical concern?

There’s never been a list, so we can’t say it’s happened in the past. But we’ve had plenty of trolls who think that way, yes.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/24 "2012-06-20T22:21:30Z")

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> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#):
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> People keep saying this, but I don’t believe it. Has that ever actually happened? Or is this just a theoretical concern?
> 
> (Which is not to say that I want a list of banned posters, because I couldn’t care less.)

> [@Colibri](#):
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> You have no idea. There are some persistent loons who have registered hundreds, maybe thousands of socks.

I don’t remember what my total was, but when I was actively banning people on a regular basis, I remember banning one person with 26 names in one day. Yes, one name for every letter of the alphabet. And he wasn’t the only person I banned on that day, either. I know that a few idjits had more than a hundred socks, and I’d wager that yes indeed, at least a few had over a thousand.

Some people need a hobby. Well, they need a DIFFERENT hobby.

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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/25 "2012-06-24T03:24:33Z")

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I don’t think a formal list is a good idea, but if one wanted to create a stickied thread in the BBQ Pit where Dopers can post links to memorable train-wreck threads, that might be fun (in a morbidly fascinating way).

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/26 "2012-06-24T05:35:22Z")

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But you do notify us of banning long-term members. Why do that if it’s so bad to draw attention to them?

Maybe a stickied list of banning threads would serve a purpose. Only include the ones that were important enough to have a thread.

When zombie threads arise, and I see people who were banned after 10,000 posts, I often want to lnow why. I can find the reason if I search, but a list in one place would be a time saver.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/27 "2012-06-24T06:22:45Z")

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To be clear, I was only interested in members like **Diogenes**. Not spammers and the like.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/28 "2012-06-24T13:26:12Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I’m wondering why we’d want to give trolls even more attention after they’re banned.  
> Just not a good idea.

I totally agree. Some trolls get enough [post-banning attention](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=656188) me thinks.

Edited to add.  
**etv78** Some of us are still hoping Dio makes it back someday.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/29 "2012-06-24T13:44:02Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You have no idea. There are some persistent loons who have registered hundreds, maybe thousands of socks.

An IP ban doesn’t prevent a loon from registering a thousand times? Not being a smartass, I really don’t know.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/30 "2012-06-24T14:25:57Z")

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We can’t ban every IP a troll has used, since such a block can also bar legitimate users – esp. if the troll uses public hot spots.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/31 "2012-06-24T19:01:50Z")

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**Morgenstern** -ITA about **DtC** , I miss/liked him.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/32 "2012-06-24T20:31:31Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Unless you limit such a list to those people who were “regular posters” for some span of time before getting banned, the list would run into the thousands! We fail to praise the work of the Mods in this regard. They must be banning dozens of one-timers (socks, spammers, trolls and garden variety shit) every day.
> 
> A recent thread dealing with “active users” prompted **ntucker** to create a file back in November last year that had the vital statistics on every UserID. There were thousands of people who had posted less than twice who had been banned. I propose we don’t need that! On the other hand, there were in the range of a hundred or more who had posted more than a few dozen times who were later banned. That might be a fun list to keep handy for those who don’t learn from mere warnings. I posted such a list in a recent thread. I’ll try to locate that post for you. 🙂
> 
> ETA: here you go: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15079944&postcount=85](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15079944&postcount=85)

25781 “Diogenes the Cynic” 58797 2002-10-03 2011-10-12  
59081 “gonzomax” 26307 2006-05-07 2011-11-22  
4245 “Otto” 22506 2000-01-27 2008-10-07

That’s more than a hunderd thousand posts. By just three banned people.

Fuck. Me.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/33 "2012-06-24T20:34:59Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> We can’t ban every IP a troll has used, since such a block can also bar legitimate users – esp. if the troll uses public hot spots.

This has been a problem for Wikipedia. Qatar routes basically everyone through one or two IPs, as does Gibraltar. Then there are plenty of places with only one or two ISPs.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wall-of-shame/625696/34 "2012-06-25T22:47:49Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> But you do notify us of banning long-term members. Why do that if it’s so bad to draw attention to them?

The attention thing really only applied to trolls, because they are the ones who are posting for attention. Banning for violating other rules is less a concern, and most of the long-term members are not banned for trolling.

Notification is basically to offset the swarm of questions that will inevitably arise if a long-term/well-known poster is suddenly banned.

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