# Walmart employee found dead in Walk in Oven **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 24, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150 "2024-10-24T14:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/41 "2024-10-24T21:28:41Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > She could have been killed elsewhere and her body placed inside and the oven turned on. I mean, I think I’ve seen half a dozen British mysteries over the decades with a plot like that. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/42 "2024-10-24T21:37:07Z")
There was an episode of _Bones_ where a body was found in a giant bar of chocolate. > **[The Babe in the Bar](https://bones.fandom.com/wiki/The_Babe_in_the_Bar)** > > The Babe in the Bar is the seventh episode of the sixth season of Bones. An event for a candymaker turns bitter when human remains are discovered in the world's largest chocolate bar; Cam struggles with her daughter's decision to attend a college... If this was _Castle_, there would definitely be a joke about someone loafing at work. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/43 "2024-10-24T21:42:19Z")
Are we all sure that the employee wasn’t a witch and the Walmart a gingerbread house? ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/44 "2024-10-24T21:43:45Z")
That show definitely has its share of horrible wordplay. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/45 "2024-10-24T22:06:06Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > There was an episode of _Bones_ where a body was found in a giant bar of chocolate. Just remember: [If you fall into a vat of chocolate, yell “Fire!”](https://youtu.be/kH0IZZRd0bI?si=5P-yVM1tiUHgkFBF) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/46 "2024-10-24T22:32:53Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > > [@beowulff](#): > > > > This sort of thing has happened before: > > A fine example of why lockout/tagout is vitally important when doing any work. Yeah, a couple places in the store where I work use lock out/tag out procedures. Every so often we get people who treat it like a joke or get careless. It’s a bit like whack-a-mole. The safety gear is there but the next obstacle is getting people to use it consistently. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/47 "2024-10-24T22:34:20Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > It’s not a room. Those are just big enough to hold a rack of sheet pans and rotate it. I’ll note that the picture you posted looks like the oven I’ve seen at every Subway ever, and once I saw that I thought, oh yeah, _that_ oven, duh. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/48 "2024-10-24T22:56:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > It’s not a room. Those are just big enough to hold a rack of sheet pans and rotate it. > > I’ll note that the picture you posted looks like the oven I’ve seen at every Subway ever That was my first thought when I saw that picture – any little hole-in-the-wall Subway will have an oven like that. Larger bakeries will have much larger ovens like some of the other ones pictured that you literally can walk into. The most recent news I’ve seen from Halifax police is that there is no further update and the ongoing investigation may take some time. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/49 "2024-10-24T23:09:06Z")
I worked at a local bagel bakery/restaurant and we had a revolving oven like the one in @Joey_P’s post upthread. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/50 "2024-10-25T00:15:43Z")
Industrial Safety is the science of human failure. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/51 "2024-10-25T03:50:41Z")
What’s the saying? “Safety regulations are written in blood” or something along those lines? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/52 "2024-10-25T03:58:11Z")
Yes, that originally came out of the aviation side, but it applies universally. Although the failure often comes from the top. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/53 "2024-10-25T09:57:38Z")
I wonder if her young age might have been a factor, and/or inexperience. Where I work many of the big, scary, industrial machines have a minimum age requirement to operate, and in some cases require some formal training with regular reviews. But this happened in Canada which many or may not have similar laws to Indiana, US. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/54 "2024-10-25T12:34:21Z")
That would still happen postmortem. But Occam’s Razor does favor “victim put themselves into oven” since it is a simpler setup (requires fewer factors). ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/55 "2024-10-25T14:24:18Z")
> [@Everlong88](#): > > Makes me wonder why her Mom kept calling and or messaging her at work. Reading one of the articles, it appears her mother was also employed by the Walmart. It’s not clear if they were both on shift together, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/56 "2024-10-25T14:44:56Z")
From a CBC article, “The fundraising drive says the mother became frantic after her daughter didn’t answer her phone during the Saturday night shift. The mother, whose name was not released, eventually opened the walk-in bakery oven at the store and found her daughter’s burned body, it says.” Another article elsewhere says, “Her mother became worried Saturday when she didn’t see Kaur around the store for an hour and her cell phone was unreachable.” ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/57 "2024-10-25T15:09:07Z")
Many here are incredulous that such a thing could happen as an accident, but I wouldn’t rule it out. As mentioned upthread, people can try stunts that go wrong, particularly in the instagram age. Or she could have been in there cleaning, say, and passed out. Yes it strains credulity that she would not be immediately visible to the next person to operate the oven, but it seems possible to me in a busy environment, if she fell in an unlucky way, and remember we’re just talking about one event out of thousands of uses of these devices. Not saying it’s most likely, just again, not ruling it out. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/58 "2024-10-25T15:17:21Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Yes it strains credulity that she would not be immediately visible to the next person to operate the oven, but it seems possible to me in a busy environment, if she fell in an unlucky way, and remember we’re just talking about one event out of thousands of uses of these devices. If it was an accident, my WAG is that someone didn’t realize she was in there and pushed the door shut as they walked past it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/59 "2024-10-25T15:18:59Z")
If, hypothetically, she was still conscious when someone closed the door on her, what prevented her from pushing the door open? I read someplace that the oven didn’t lock but was there a release inside? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/60 "2024-10-25T15:31:35Z")
I think it would be easy to panic and not see the release. Or, if something like the passing out hypothetical happened, then the next person pushed a rack in without seeing her, and when she woke she was pressed up against the back with little room to move. Sorry for how dark this is getting. I do remember now though, many years ago here in the UK, where there was an accident at some kind of industrial oven which was as grim as this speculation (and had CCTV to prove it), so this shit does happen sometimes. 😟 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150.md?page=4)