# Walmart employee found dead in Walk in Oven **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 24, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150 "2024-10-24T14:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/141 "2024-11-19T22:58:40Z")
Even if it wasn’t murder, something suspicious sure happened here. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/142 "2024-11-19T23:01:13Z")
Is this one of those cases where “suspicious” means something different in Canadian jurisprudence than in colloquial American? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/143 "2024-11-19T23:19:39Z")
Arranged marriage is still common in Sikh Society. [Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=sikh+society+arranged+marriage&oq=Sikh+Society+arranged&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBECEYoAEyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRiPAtIBCDgxNzlqMGo3qAIUsAIB&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8) That would be stressful for any Canadian or American teen girl. They’re living and going to school in a modern world, but life at home is different. Only the family know the situation at home. They have a right to privacy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/144 "2024-11-19T23:20:14Z")
It occurs to me that “no further updates out of respect for the family” sure seems like it points to suicide. Any other situation (murder, passed out due to fumes from cleaning, whatever) would result in the family wanting the details made public. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/145 "2024-11-19T23:50:13Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Arranged marriage is still common in Sikh Society. Is that something that was brought up as a possible reason for her death? > [@Chronos](#): > > It occurs to me that “no further updates out of respect for the family” sure seems like it points to suicide. That’s what I’m still guessing. If a crime was committed, the police would either be looking for someone or they’d have charged someone. They wouldn’t go on the news and say exactly the opposite, unless you (@Seanette) think the police covered it up. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/146 "2024-11-20T00:02:57Z")
I’m very suspicious that _someone_ is covering up something, given how much has been published about the safeguards on those ovens and how unlikely it is there’d be room for someone to shove a rack in there and not notice hitting a human, among other things. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/147 "2024-11-20T00:19:40Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is that something that was brought up as a possible reason for her death? Self-Harm has been brought up several times. It hasn’t been completely established. But investigators have dismissed other options like equipment malfunction or criminal activity. At this point what actually happened will never be reported. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/148 "2024-11-20T00:22:14Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is that something that was brought up as a possible reason for her death? I suspect that aceplace is speculating. The young woman was Sikh, and she and her mother immigrated to Canada from India two or three years ago. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/149 "2024-11-20T00:27:13Z")
Speculation is all that is left. I am relieved homicide has been ruled out by the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/150 "2024-11-20T00:29:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Speculation is all that is left. Then, it might be useful, when you make posts like that, to actually _say_ something like, “I’m speculating here…” Otherwise, it can sound like you’re posting based on something solid that you have read or heard. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/151 "2024-11-20T00:30:26Z")
I thought it was obvious I’ll say so in the future. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/152 "2024-11-20T01:01:15Z")
A retired police detective I know once commented over cocktails that after a mysterious death you always start out suspecting all the family & close friends. Only when they’re eliminated do you movd on to strangers. Obvious examples of street crime are an exception to that general rule. This ain’t that. As to suicide by painful means, often folks are either clueless or unrealistically optimistic about passing out before it gets bad. They learn otherwise too late to correct the situation. Whatever happened it was a damned shame. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/153 "2024-11-20T02:16:08Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > I’m very suspicious that _someone_ is covering up something, given how much has been published about the safeguards on those ovens and how unlikely it is there’d be room for someone to shove a rack in there and not notice hitting a human, among other things. But who do you think is covering something up and what do you think is being covered up? Do you think it’s a murder or suicide that’s being covered up? > [@aceplace57](#): > > Self-Harm has been brought up several times. It hasn’t been completely established. It hasn’t been established _to us_, the family likely knows what that cause of death was, or at least how she ended up there. > [@aceplace57](#): > > At this point what actually happened will never be reported. It’s certainly ‘reported’, just not via press release. If someone really wanted to, an FOIA request may reveal more. > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I suspect that aceplace is speculating > [@aceplace57](#): > > Speculation is all that is left. But speculating that she was trying to escape an arranged marriage seems completely out of left field, at least barring something more than being Sikh. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/154 "2024-11-20T02:21:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > t occurs to me that “no further updates out of respect for the family” sure seems like it points to suicide. Any other situation (murder, passed out due to fumes from cleaning, whatever) would result in the family wanting the details made public. Or a possible drug overdose that impaired her ability to operate the oven safely might be something the family didn’t want widely publicized. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/155 "2024-11-20T02:47:51Z")
I had a thought that she may have heard of the trope of committing suicide by putting your head in a (gas) oven, and misunderstood it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/156 "2024-11-20T14:28:06Z")
Go big or go home. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/157 "2024-11-20T14:32:40Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When they say it was assessed and determined to have been operating as per the manufacturer’s requirements, I’m assuming that means the internal door release works properly. Not necessarily. There have been many product recalls because the product is defective or dangerous, whether that’s an automobile or a baby product like a bouncy seat. IF it was a design defect that there could be civil liability but not necessarily criminal liability. it’s also possible that the employee didn’t follow procedure & this happened. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150/158 "2025-01-23T01:56:18Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > But I would assume that every inch in a Walmart is covered by surveillance cameras, isn’t it? Yes, but that doesn’t mean they are being monitored real-time. But the feed from the cameras is fed to home office, not just recorded locally. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Do you think theft doesn’t occur in the back rooms? > > Actually, who knows with Walmart? They’re cheap bastards and worse than other big box stores. Yes, the back rooms have cameras. I’m not certain about the bakery. But employee theft is a big concern, so I suspect there’s at least one. Foul play has been eliminated, as well as malfunction. An improperly functioning latch by design deficiency would still be a safety failure, and be reported. The comment about family privacy tells me it was some form of suicide, perhaps drug aided. There may have been some symbolic point for using the oven, or it might just have been what she could think of and have access to. Without a note, that may never be known even to the police or family. It’s tragic and saddening. A few years ago, one of my coworkers committed suicide. At least she didn’t do it in the store. I still think about her, and wish I had known more at the time about things in her life I learned later. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walmart-employee-found-dead-in-walk-in-oven/1009150.md?page=7)