# Walt Disney's "SONG OF THE SOUTH"-Forbidden to be Shown? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 20, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796 "2003-01-20T14:18:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/41 "2003-01-23T21:56:43Z")
[Releases](http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221908) > [@](#): > > Aladdin has never been available on DVD. It has been tagged as one of the ten Platinum Edition titles, with an initial expected release date of 2003. However, it appears that The Lion King and Aladdin have switched order, so the release is currently expected in 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daniel)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/42 "2003-01-23T23:59:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > \*\ ***Daniel** –What store was THIS at?😕 > > IDBB \*\* CDWorld on Rte 46, westbound direction, next to the Toys ‘R’ Us in Totowa, NJ. They used to have great prices but I think they went up (still, they have some good sales every now and then, and they stock some DVDs that can be otherwise hard to find). But hands off The Black Cauldron! It’s mine! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/43 "2003-01-24T00:32:33Z")
Why the heck is the Lady and the Tramp DVD so expensive? Disney just pisses me off like that. Prices for a stupid movie go sky-high because they only make a “limited number” of copies. They could just sell more and make more money off of it. And I’ve seen “Song of the South” on Ebay a few times, and I’ve never seen it go below 60 bucks. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/44 "2003-01-24T01:06:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Walloon \* > Disney did a lot of contract work like that over the years, especially in the health sciences field: _Hemo the Magnificent_ (directed by Frank Capra, no less!) As far as I can tell, Disney had nothing to do with _Hemo_. Shamus Culhane’s company did the animation. Disney did the last Bell Science film, _The Restless Sea_. The Bell Science Series was great, though. I have all the videos. _Hemo_ is the best, and _Our Mr. Sun_ is second. The science is dated, but the Capra entries are still excellent in capturing the wonder of science, especially using Beethoven’s 9th at the closing. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/45 "2003-01-24T16:36:23Z")
**roadkiller** –join the club.I am pissed as hell at Disney for such tactics.Believe me if I could strangle Eisner with my bare hands and force him to change the policy I would.😉 IDBB _note I am not advocating the strangulation,with bare hands or otherwise,of Micheal Eisner.Strangling him is a dream of many,many Disney fans._\* ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/46 "2003-01-24T19:54:29Z")
Regarding the animated scenes in SOTS: they are very crude by today’s standards,but I liked the psychidelic-colored landscapes that James Baskett strolled through (with “Mr. Bluebird on my shoulder”). How was this done? Did they simply shoot the actor against a colored backdrop? Damn, wish I could get holdof a copy! ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/47 "2003-01-26T17:03:06Z")
I think that’s how it was done, but since IANAFE,I don’t know. More than likely they used ‘green screen’ and shot the actors against a green backdrop and added the colored background in later. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/48 "2003-01-26T18:49:27Z")
How expensive are they? I mean “The Black Cauldron” can be found on Amazon for only $20. The reason “Lady & the Tramp”, “The Little Mermaid”, “101 Dalmations” and “The Jungle Book” are all so expensive on DVD is that they were only released once, in 1997, as part of a set. These were all limited edition releases. You can only find them used and you’ll have to hunt around to find a decent deal. I know, I’ve got every DFLAF on DVD that’s been released. Although I ate a lot of crow to buy “Saludos Amigos” due to a slight edit, “Make Mine Music” due to a major edit, “The Sword and the Stone” due to being full screen _raspberry_, “The Aristocats” ditto and “The Fox and the Hound” ditto. This page has the rest of the [Platinum series](http://members.lycos.co.uk/pixararchive/Disney/ComingUp/FutureReleases.php). And that still leaves out “The Rescueres” and “Sleeping Beauty” both of which have been available in Europe and elsewhere for quite some time. Well damn it! Europe just got a 2nd edition of “Sleeping Beauty” with a “Deluxe Collector’s Edition.” There may even be a 3rd edition but I’d be willing to bet that there 3 disc box set just includes the first edition. And we don’t even have a release date. _raspberry_ ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/49 "2003-01-27T04:24:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EJsGirl \* > **we were all horrified at the racial stereotyping of the “blackbird”, etc.** I’ve seen _Dumbo_ and am at a loss to understand what the PC is about. What’s the racial stereotyping? Those blackbirds were great! ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/50 "2003-01-27T06:23:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*:eek: > He was _white_? > > Jeez. I sure got _that_ one wrong! :eek: > > Thanks for the info! :)\*\* In _Life on the Mississippi_, Mark Twain describes him as “undersized, red-haired, and somewhat freckled.” His young fans, who gathered at Twain’s friend Cable’s house to meet him, were shocked and disappointed to discover that “Uncle Remus” was white. So it’s at least a long-lived misconception. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/51 "2003-01-27T14:59:53Z")
It is my understanding that Disney will allow Song of the South to be viewed for academic purposes - although back when I took a college Art History class on Disney, the prof - Karal Ann Marling - tried to get a copy to show us and they wouldn’t release it for class. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/52 "2003-01-27T15:19:07Z")
If this movie is ever released in the \*States, one scene that probably won’t make it is the one with Uncle Remus and Br’er Frog. . . _smoking_. [Insert **Creature of the Black Lagoon** music here] \*Hey, if the Bucs can win the Super Bowl–anything’s possible. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/53 "2003-01-27T17:44:20Z")
Pardon me for bringing up something everyone may already know, but the Splash Mountain ride at Disneyland is based on the Uncle Remus stories as told portrayed in “Song of the South.” ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/54 "2003-01-27T19:08:57Z")
The video of “Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah” is available on a Disney Sing-a-long video (link follows). The editorial review is interesting in light of this thread. [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6300276554/qid=1043694337/sr=1-1/ref=sr\_1\_1/002-1158318-7711241?v=glance&s=video](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6300276554/qid=1043694337/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-1158318-7711241?v=glance&s=video) ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/55 "2003-01-28T03:21:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dangerosa \* > \*\*It is my understanding that Disney will allow Song of the South to be viewed for academic purposes - although back when I took a college Art History class on Disney, the prof - Karal Ann Marling - tried to get a copy to show us and they wouldn’t release it for class. \*\* * * * I can double check with my Disney corporate legal dept. friend who does these clearances, but I’m sure she said that they won’t release SOTS even for educational purposes. Anything else, you could probably get. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Punkyova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@The\_Punkyova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Punkyova)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/56 "2003-01-28T04:19:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rowrrbazzle \* > \*\*As far as I can tell, Disney had nothing to do with _Hemo_. Shamus Culhane’s company did the animation. \*\* [major hijack] Shamus Culhane? As in Chico Marx’s son-in-law, Shamus Culhane? Which company was this? I didn’t know that he had an animation company. Any and all information would be really appreciated by this Marx Brothers fan.[/major hijack] ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/57 "2003-01-30T02:49:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Punkyova \* > [major hijack] Shamus Culhane? As in Chico Marx’s son-in-law, Shamus Culhane? Which company was this? I didn’t know that he had an animation company. Any and all information would be really appreciated by this Marx Brothers fan.[/major hijack] Yes, he was married briefly to Chico’s daughter Maxine. (I didn’t know that before now.) [His short-lived company](http://us.imdb.com/List?production-companies=Shamus%20Culhane%20Productions&&tv=on&&heading=18;produced+by;Shamus%20Culhane%20Productions) did only 3 of the Bell Science Series and “Showdown at Ulcer Gulch”, which is supposed to be awful. The Disney connection is that Culhane was previously one of Disney’s major animators. ---
**Author:** ![Isaac\_Cashman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a9a28c/32.png) [@Isaac\_Cashman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isaac_Cashman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/58 "2003-03-13T22:21:15Z")
“Der Fuehrer’s Face” won an Oscar. It used to be on T.V. in the 50’s as part of the “Disnyland/Wonderful World of Color” Salute to Donald Duck. Disney should be ashamed of keeping it `` In The Vault ‘’! Can one get an un-censored version of “The Three Little Pigs”. I find the oicture of “FATHER” (a football and a ham) more offensive than Big Bad Wolf pretending to a Jewish Peddlar. Note: I am Jewish. An intereting question: What percentage of the public was offended by the following when :The Three Little Pigs" firs came out? What percentage of the public finds it offensive today? The Picture of the piglets _lustily_ rooting at the dugs of “MOTHER”. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/59 "2003-03-13T23:29:52Z")
I recently bought “The Black Cauldron” from Amazon. What an awful movie. No wonder it was a failure. Bad acting, huge plot holes, boring animation, stupid annoying creature sidekicks. Trust me, it ain’t anything worth pining over. ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796/60 "2003-03-14T00:02:14Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Isaac Cashman \* > [BCan one get an un-censored version of “The Three Little Pigs”. I find the oicture of “FATHER” (a football and a ham) more offensive than Big Bad Wolf pretending to a Jewish Peddlar._\* You can sort of get it now as it is included in the limited release DVD ‘Silly Simphonies Disney Treasures Tin’ . I watched it the other day and don’t recall the Wolf being a Jewish Peddler, but instead more of a Fuller Brush Salesman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walt-disneys-song-of-the-south-forbidden-to-be-shown/149796.md?page=4)