# Walz & Vance Debate Follow-Along -- Tue, Oct 1, 2024, 8:00 PM CDT

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284 "2024-09-30T14:05:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
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Election night should be a good one.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> My. I just realized this may be the last follow-along thread we have for this election.

Well, there will be the “60 Minutes” Harris interview in a week. We could have a follow-along for that.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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I firmly believe Harris/Walz are going to win. So for now, yes. IMVHO.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
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That’s fair. Calling it a lie would’ve been one notch better.

I think one problem with this is that Walz cares about being right every time he says something. He is probably thinking about post-debate fact checks, and getting something wrong. Vance (and the right in general) relish getting called out by the liberal media fact checkers. So he just fires away with the bullshit confidently. Walz comes across as hedging because he speaks with nuance.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What about watching the results come in (or not) late on November 5th?

A good many of us will be drinking for that one.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Vance is actually making sense about school security.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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Not just you.

Just say abortions in the the last trimesters are usually medical emergencies or something horribly wrong with the child. Both are very agonizing for the parents and what trump/vance are saying is adding a twisting knife to the wound.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
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It’s a fashion thing in general. It would drive me crazy to wear that. Not my decision for others.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What about watching the results come in (or not) late on November 5th?

> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> You’re overlooking the thousand post long moment-by-moment running thread on election night?

> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Election night should be a good one.

Wow, am I in denial or what? 😉

Of course, that will be one mo’ fo’ of a follow-along thread!! Thanks for the reminder… I think…?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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Damn right. My bar will be well-stocked on Election Night.

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Vance with the “90% of gun violence is committed by illegally obtained guns, thanks to Kamala Harris’s wide open borders” made-up bullshit claim.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
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“Make the doors lock better.”

Yep, good door locks are just the thing for gun violence.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
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School shooters use guns from Mexican cartel illegal immigrants.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Well, there will be the “60 Minutes” Harris interview in a week. We could have a follow-along for that.

All you have to do is start one. It’s a free country. So far.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I firmly believe Harris/Walz are going to win. So for now, yes. IMVHO.

Hold…no: _cling to_ that thought.

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Not.

The epidemic of gun deaths in kids is not driven by the high profile ones in schools. More chance for a kid to die a gun death in their home. Much more on streets.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Yep, good door locks are just the thing for gun violence.

I mean, he’s not 100% wrong there. Classroom doors that lock from the inside are a strong impediment to school shooters.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
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Maybe 90% of daily shootings are done with illegal weapons. I do not believe the same stat applies to school shootings.

Making schools prisons is not the answer.

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Vance is right about mental health, but his party is 100% CONTRIBUTING to that problem.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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I wish Walz wouldn’t look down so much of the time while Vance is speaking.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Damn right. My bar will be well-stocked on Election Night.

Remember, it took 3.5 days to call the 2020 election.

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