# Walz & Vance Debate Follow-Along -- Tue, Oct 1, 2024, 8:00 PM CDT

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284 "2024-09-30T14:05:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![plankter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@plankter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plankter)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/261 "2024-10-02T02:12:39Z")

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AGAIN with “the Vice President is responsible for that”.

“Unused Federal lands” - that Repub crap makes me angry.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Why does Vance keep suggesting Harris has control over policy?

Because the right-wing believes that Biden is completely incompetent, and Harris has been secretly running the show, and has for a few years.

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Yeah, I said earlier:

> Vance seems to be saying that yeah the Republicans have really messed up and have lost the public’s trust, but he and Trump are going to fix that.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> …Harris has been secretly running the show…

I thought it was Obama.

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**Author:** ![plankter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@plankter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plankter)\
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And vice-versa.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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Like he drained the swamp in his first term.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Walz finally points out that the VP doesn’t control policy or legislation.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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Hell, I thought it was George Soros.

So many puppet masters! So little time!

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Most of that “regulatory regime” limiting more housebuilding is local zoning ordinances. Which the POTUS (let alone the vice president) can’t do a damn thing about. – and Walz is – no, he’s not saying that at all. But he did at least say that the VP doesn’t do it.

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On to healthcare and an ACA “replacement”, and Norah O’Donnell brought up “Senator, your running mate said in his debate that he only has a ‘concept of a plan’”.

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Perhaps we could rebuild housing in centralia?

there are bunches of ghost towns all over the us. Are we resurrecting them?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Now he’s trying to give Trump credit for Obamacare!

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> I thought it was Obama.

Whatever works in the moment. Obama, Soros, hell, the ghost of JFK. Whatever works at the time.

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Oh my god vance is soooo full of shit.

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Whenever Vance/Trump asks why Harris didn’t bring about utopia when they had the chance, I don’t understand why they don’t just say “because of the Republican clown show in Congress.”

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I’ve been busy running errands all night. Late to join the party. Didn’t see any of the debate.

So, what’s the score? Is Walz winning by 3 touchdowns? Update me.

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Trump passed a healthcare plan? In this universe??

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> > [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > Why does Vance keep suggesting Harris has control over policy?
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> Because the right-wing believes that Biden is completely incompetent, and Harris has been secretly running the show, and has for a few years

I thought it was because Biden isn’t running, so blaming him for anything wouldn’t help defeat Harris.

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> So, what’s the score? Is Walz winning by 3 touchdowns? Update me.

Not even close. More like a tie game with multiple lead changes.

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> So, what’s the score?

It’s like Calvinball: the score is Q to Purple.

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