# Walz & Vance Debate Follow-Along -- Tue, Oct 1, 2024, 8:00 PM CDT

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284 "2024-09-30T14:05:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Vance: “I think we’re focused on the future.”

Does your boss know that?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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Inflation caused Jan 6?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/303 "2024-10-02T02:31:41Z")

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Vance not answering whether he’d allow the constitutional process of the election even if all 50 states certified.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
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Don’t look behind that curtain. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along…

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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How can Republicans continue to believe that other countries pay American tariffs? It’s _Americans_ who pay the tariffs. This has been said over and over, yet Republicans refuse to believe it. Jeez, Louise!

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/306 "2024-10-02T02:32:04Z")

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“The threat of censorship?” That’s rich coming from the party of book bans.

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**Author:** ![plankter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@plankter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plankter)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/307 "2024-10-02T02:32:21Z")

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“Let’s not bicker and argue about 'oo killed 'oo…”

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
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Vance just said he’s proud to have the endorsement of Bobby Brainworms, Jr (and Tulsi Gabbard)? yikes.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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Yes, yes, he did.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/310 "2024-10-02T02:33:01Z")

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Okay, JD. Give us _your_ definition of censorship, because I don’t think Harris is engaging in censorship at all.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Vance has a slobbermouth going, hand my man a tissue.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
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I’m sorry, what was the question Vance isn’t answering? I thought it was about January 6.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/walz-vance-debate-follow-along-tue-oct-1-2024-8-00-pm-cdt/1008284/313 "2024-10-02T02:33:20Z")

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How are the imaginary 25 million illegal aliens buying houses by cleaning toilets and picking strawberries?

> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> It is more of an actual debate. They engage each other.

But Vance is sometimes making sense, and both are sometimes agreeing. Vance has to stick to trump insane ideas sometimes, but he is not doing terrible.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> So, what’s the score? Is Walz winning by 3 touchdowns?

Walz is ahead by a field goal. Vance only gets crazy when he has to regurgitate trump talking points, and even then he tries to tone them down.

> [@plankter](#):
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> “Unused Federal lands” - that Repub crap makes me angry.

Deserts and chaparral without water or roads or infrastructure.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> This debate is not going to convince many people to change their vote, but it is refreshing because it is approaching what an actual debate looks like.

Yep.

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I watched half an hour of the debate and that’s enough for me. I don’t see a clear winner. Vance is slightly smoother and more mendacious, but not in a way many voters would find egregious. Walz seems more passionate and is holding his end of the debate down well. He is slightly less smooth but more likeable. I may be biased since I like his points better.

This debate is not going to convince many people to change their vote, but it is refreshing because it is approaching what an actual debate looks like.

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Tim is being too polite. I thought he needed to bring the anger, for the people out there.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Tim is being too polite.

I believe they call that “Minnesota nice”.

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> what was the question Vance isn’t answering?

Whether as vice president he’d accept a lost election even if all 50 states had certified, or would refuse to do so and try to send it back to the states.

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I agree. Trump voters don’t want polite. They want to see someone take some swings.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Vance has a slobbermouth going, hand my man a tissue.

Isn’t that what the beard is for?

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I believe they call that “Minnesota nice”.

After all, Minnesota is really close to Canada.

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The Big Lie again.

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