# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\
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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Is there actually an Avengers roster in the MCU? Seems to me it’s just a catch-all for all the super powered good guys, especially since their two “leaders” have been offed.

Yeah, per Tony, the Avengers as an actual group were no more at the start of Infinity War. It seemed like Black Widow had them back in action during The Blip, but it certain seemed like they re-disbanded post-Endgame.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/302 "2021-02-07T21:33:15Z")

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It’s been a while since I saw the Fox X-Men movies - did their version of Quicksilver talk like an extra from _The Sopranos_? I think **Cervaise** is right - this is some regular person remolded into Wanda’s brother, and the casting is a joke for the audience, not something with plot significance.

Speaking of accents, did anyone notice that when Wanda stepped out of the anomaly to confront the SWORD agents, she was speaking with a distinct Eastern European (presumably, Sokovian) accent?

That being said, I don’t think we’re dealing with multiple reality Wandas, I think we’re dealing with multiple personality Wandas.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/303 "2021-02-07T21:36:10Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> It’s been a while since I saw the Fox X-Men movies - did their version of Quicksilver talk like an extra from _The Sopranos_ ?

He talked like that because he is being mind controlled into playing a cool sitcom uncle. That has nothing to do with who he actually is.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/304 "2021-02-07T21:41:06Z")

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When Vision broke the mind control on his coworker, he still had the same accent - he didn’t have the cornball dialogue, but he still sounded like the same dude. I don’t recall the Fox Quicksilver having a notable New York accent, but like I said, it’s been a while since I’ve seen those movies.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/305 "2021-02-07T21:44:35Z")

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I think there’s almost no chance Evan Peters showed up as a joke. The fans would hate that, I think – they want it to be significant, and have something to do with Disney’s acquisition of the X-Men rights… and one thing the MCU has been great at is giving the fans what they want.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/306 "2021-02-07T21:48:46Z")

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Yeah. Same way that Wanda is assuming an American accent in Westview, except  
when she breaks character while throwing Monica out or speak to Hayward - then she uses the character’s movie accent

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/307 "2021-02-07T21:52:59Z")

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Eh, maybe. As a fan, I’d be okay with it. I’ll actually be a little disappointed if their way of bringing mutants into the MCU is “they’re from an alternate reality.”

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> [@Miller](#):
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> When Vision broke the mind control on his coworker, he still had the same accent - he didn’t have the cornball dialogue, but he still sounded like the same dude. I don’t recall the Fox Quicksilver having a notable New York accent, but like I said, it’s been a while since I’ve seen those movies.

They’re on Disney+. I just checked. In the FoX-Men movies, he had a generic middle American accent, very different from the voice he uses on _WandaVision_. He’s also _Peter_, not Pietro, and is an only child.

However…

As you point out, Wanda _also_ has a fake accent in her reality bubble. I agree with @DigitalC - as the “Uncle Jesse” analog, his reality bubble character has a cheesy New York accent.

If this casting is just an Easter Egg for fans with no plot relevance, I seriously think that will come close to ruining this series for me. Everything up to that scene was carefully scripted and plotted clues as to what’s really going on. If the show wants us to pay attention to small details, then a _big_, obvious, in-your-face detail that the series narratively and structurally emphasizes winds up being a meaningless in-joke, that’s _terrible_ writing and casting.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/309 "2021-02-07T21:59:13Z")

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> [@Jack\_Burden](#):
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> I’m thinking Monica has already got some degree of her powers from the comics and that’s why she could enter and survive in the Hex.

The beekeeper guy also was able to enter the Hex and survive. Did we find out what happened to him after Wanda “rewound” seeing him climb out of the sewer?

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The beekeeper guy also was able to enter the Hex and survive. Did we find out what happened to him after Wanda “rewound” seeing him climb out of the sewer?

I don’t think so. SWORD lost contact with him when his line snapped, and I’m pretty sure him climbing out of the sewer then being re-wound was the last we saw of him (“we” being both the IRL audience and the in-universe audience).

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> [@gdave](#):
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> As you point out, Wanda _also_ has a fake accent in her reality bubble.

I don’t think that’s a fake accent - I think Wanda’s simply lost her accent from living abroad for so long. She doesn’t have an accent in Infinity War, at least that I can detect. If I’m right about that being a different personality, it makes sense that the personality formed to keep Wanda safe at all costs, even at the expense of others, would be the version of her that was a Hydra terrorist, which was back when she still had a Sokovian accent.

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> [@gdave](#):
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> They’re on Disney+. I just checked. In the FoX-Men movies, he had a generic middle American accent, very different from the voice he uses on _WandaVision_ . He’s also _Peter_ , not Pietro, and is an only child.

He actually does have a red-headed sister in the Fox universe. But not a twin. [A younger sister](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/a/aa/Maximoff_%28Girl%29_%28Earth-TRN414%29_0001.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20140523055705) that was clearly a nod (or abandoned foreshadowing) to Wanda.

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> He actually does have a red-headed sister in the Fox universe. But not a twin. A younger sister that was clearly a nod (or abandoned foreshadowing) to Wanda.

Ah, thanks. I did not remember that at all, and she didn’t appear in the scene I reviewed to check on his accent.

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I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Darcy is calling the anomaly [“hex”](https://www.cbr.com/weapon-hex-x-23-and-scarlet-witch/) or that Wanda has twins. It’s a way to bring mutants into the story through the “House of M” storyline. It could be that the snap awakened the mutant genes, in Wanda et al.  
Mephisto or Chthon or some combination is lurking in the shadows.

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I linked to the pic in my edit. She was sitting on his lap, dressed all fortune teller-y, when we first meet him

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Regarding Fox’s Quicksilver, unless he also traveled through time, he would be 70ish years old right now.

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She clearly drops it when not “in character” on TV camera. As noted, she moved into the Sovakian accent they had created for her when “off camera” with Monica.

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He was active in the Eighties, which is when this episode of “WandaVision” was set.

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But “now” is the 1990s in the Hex.

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Regarding Wanda’s accent:

> **[Elizabeth Olsen Explains Scarlet Witch’s Changing Accent, from ‘Age of...](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/elizabeth-olsen-explains-scarlet-witch-accent-wandavision-1234610038/)**
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> Olsen has received criticism for abandoning her character’s accent over the years, but she says it’s been done with purpose.

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> Olsen continued, “The Sokovian accent took a lot of time. It hasn’t gone anywhere. There have been reasons for everything. It lightened up when she started living in the States, and in ‘WandaVision’ she is playing the role of being in an American sitcom and so it’s not gone. It is absolutely still there.”
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> Joe and Anthony Russo, who directed Olsen in two “Avengers” movies and “Captain America: Civil War,” previously said Scarlet Witch’s vanishing accent was an intentional creative choice. As the filmmaking duo [said back in 2018](https://collider.com/scarlet-witch-accent-explained/), “One is you’ll notice at the beginning of ‘Civil War’ that Black Widow is training her to be a spy, and two is she’s been on the run, and one of the most distinguishing characteristics that she has is her accent.”
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> Perhaps as “WandaVision” continues and the spell of the American sitcom breaks, MCU fans will get to hear Scarlet Witch return to her traditional Sokovian accent. The nine-episode Disney+ series airs new episodes each Friday.

They called it.

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