# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/321 "2021-02-07T23:11:37Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > When Vision broke the mind control on his coworker, he still had the same accent - he didn’t have the cornball dialogue, but he still sounded like the same dude. I Because the coworker is from Westview, Pietro is visiting from far away. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/322 "2021-02-07T23:12:21Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Regarding Fox’s Quicksilver, unless he also traveled through time, he would be 70ish years old right now. In addition to what others have said, the FoX-Men Quicksilver’s timeline is already convoluted mess in-universe. And there’s no reason I can think of why his universe would necessarily be in chrono-sync with the “core” MCU. There’s also plenty of precedent for “now” in comic book parallel universes to be at different points in their timelines. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/323 "2021-02-07T23:16:39Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Regarding Fox’s Quicksilver, unless he also traveled through time, he would be 70ish years old right now. Also, maybe he _is_ 70ish years old right “now” (for whatever value the concept of “now” has in discussing parallel universes and alternate timestreams). Wanda apparently reanimated Vision’s dismembered corpse, and is casually restructuring the basic fabric of matter around her. She could have de-aged Peter so that he’d roughly match the age Pietro should be. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/324 "2021-02-07T23:20:17Z")
Wanda’s accent come’s back when she’s angry, as a someone with bilingual parents I can tell you this is HIGHLY accurate. She had the accent when talking to Thanos in Endgame too. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/325 "2021-02-08T18:11:41Z")
An interesting idea occurred to me, but it probably isn’t being used. From the Netflix _Jessica Jones_ series, Season 1, the big bad, Kilgrave, the (Not So) Purple Man. Oh, he’s dead? Oh, you sweet summer child. Okay, yeah, this is unlikely. But I agree that someone else is pulling the strings, may have tried to mind-control Wanda for whatever reason but is discovering how much this tiger bucks (to mangle animal metaphors). But that doesn’t account for Wanda’s trying to make her One True Love live again, and why the whole town of Westview? I was finally moved to sign up for Disney+ after Episode 5 dropped and the big guest star reveal. Having read this thread (and the previous, closed one), I was very intently focused, watching every little detail, every particular facial expression. Very satisfying, and one can see that the clues slowly built in a chain, and things that merely seemed odd at first glance were all part of a piece. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/326 "2021-02-08T18:26:52Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Also, maybe he _is_ 70ish years old right “now” (for whatever value the concept of “now” has in discussing parallel universes and alternate timestreams). Besides, it’s not like comic book characters age at any realistic rate. Peter Parker was 17 years old or so in 1962, and then in his twenties in the 80s. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/327 "2021-02-08T19:21:24Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > I was finally moved to sign up for Disney+ after Episode 5 dropped and the big guest star reveal. First time on Disney+? If so, you need to catch up on _The Mandalorian,_ too, but let’s not let the thread get sidetracked. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/328 "2021-02-08T19:33:36Z")
As I was binging the first 4 episodes, I’m thinking “they’re really going for the long-game here. The first two were almost straight-forward sitcom parodies. What’s going on?” Then, episode 3 ended with “reality”. Yeah, they’re playing the long game here. You ABSOLUTELY have to have patience to make it through the first few episodes. It will get weirder. I am impressed with the overall strategy here. There is NO WAY this would work as a 2-hour action movie for the public, but in 30-minute chunks intended for the fan-boys , it works. Good job, Marvel Studios. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/329 "2021-02-08T19:45:54Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > chunks intended for the fan-boys , it works I’ll quibble that this works well for those of us who have not been fanboys too. I didn’t start watching until after Age of Ultron. Yes Cliff Notes from bigger fans provided here help, but the show itself provides enough. And little is there that _only_ stands as fan service. I think it’s done a better job with that than Madalorian S2. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/330 "2021-02-08T19:46:36Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I’ll quibble that this works well for those of us who have not been fanboys too. I didn’t start watching until after Age of Ultron. Yes Cliff Notes from bigger fans provided here help, but the show itself provides enough. And little is there that _only_ stands as fan service. I think it’s done a better job with that than Madalorian S2. But if you had started even one movie after you’d be quite lost. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/331 "2021-02-08T19:47:33Z")
I was humming “Yakety-Yak” while I was making lunch today, and I realized that is was really sinister song to be Vision’s and Wand’s “Our song.” _Don’t talk back_ ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/332 "2021-02-08T19:55:52Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Besides, it’s not like comic book characters age at any realistic rate. Peter Parker was 17 years old or so in 1962, and then in his twenties in the 80s. Well, yeah, but the MCU characters age at pretty much a real-world rate, because the _actors_ are aging at that rate. On the other hand…the FoX-Men since _Days of Future Past_ **don’t** age at a real-world rate, due to the in-universe time jumps between installments. _First Class_ takes place in 1962. The past segment of _Days of Future Past_ takes in 1973, yet the characters that appear in both only appear a couple of years older, not 10 years older. _Apocalypse_ takes place in 1983, and _Dark Phoenix_ in 1992, yet the characters from _1962_ only seem to have aged a few years. (and only a few years from then in-universe, James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender will have turned into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan…). Since Quicksilver is from that continuity, where characters barely age over several decades (before adding several apparent decades of age and completely changing their appearance within a few years…), maybe he _hasn’t_ aged all that much by 2020… ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/333 "2021-02-08T22:07:00Z")
Plus, although they’d drifted from the rest of the MCU for a few years, the finale of Agents of SHIELD had them Travelling between parallel timelines via the Quantum Realm ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/334 "2021-02-08T22:19:09Z")
thats quite the leap… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/335 "2021-02-08T23:00:45Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Since Quicksilver is from that continuity, where characters barely age over several decades (before adding several apparent decades of age and completely changing their appearance within a few years…), maybe he _hasn’t_ aged all that much by 2020… I suspect that, if this is the Fox Quicksilver, they’re going to be very vague about the specifics of his universe, such as what decades he’s been operating in. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/336 "2021-02-08T23:15:07Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I suspect that, if this is the Fox Quicksilver, they’re going to be very vague about the specifics of his universe, such as what decades he’s been operating in. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/337 "2021-02-08T23:24:45Z")
I’m not even sure if it has to be the Fox Quicksilver - it could just be QS from a very similar universe to Fox that differs in a few ways that are convenient to the MCU. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/338 "2021-02-08T23:42:27Z")
It _could_ be. That wouldn’t be nearly as bad of a cheat as the suggestion upthread that he’s just a random schmoe, and casting the FoX-Men QS’s actor is just a fan service Easter Egg. But, to me, it would still feel like a cheat. Also, Disney owns those movies now. But, they don’t seem interested in actually continuing that continuity. I don’t see any reason _not_ to have it be the actual FoX-Men Quicksilver - moving him in to the MCU proper is probably the only way he’d actually continue to appear at all. There’s also cross-company multiversal precedent. Famously, the first modern comic book “multiverse” story, “Flash of Two Worlds”, featured DC’s speedster, the Flash. The Flash has also been at the center of most of DC’s retcons and in-universe reboots. And the DCEU Flash actually officially crossed over for a brief in-continuity cameo on the TV _The Flash_. Having Marvel’s speedster being the bridge between the Fox and Marvel Studios universes seems fitting. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/339 "2021-02-09T00:03:16Z")
Honestly, I hope it’s not Fox’s Quicksilver just because he was way overpowered to the point of basically being The Flash. The only thing able to stop him were Apocalypse and Phoenix. The MCU’s Quicksilver was much slower and actually got winded. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/340 "2021-02-09T03:27:31Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > And the DCEU Flash actually officially crossed over for a brief in-continuity cameo on the TV _The Flash_ . In case anyone missed it, [it was fun](https://youtu.be/wt26xI5fw2w?t=99). (Not as much fun as when the Flash ends up in Supergirl’s continuity, but certainly supports the Speedsters From Different Worlds tradition…) ETA: As speedsters go, the [Evan Peters Quicksilver’s scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GFyZ5LREQ) (where he’s plucking bullets out of the air, and adjusting cops’ limbs so they trip when “time is back to normal”) is one of my favorites. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=18)