# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/810 "2021-02-23T18:23:23Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > It’s one of the great scientific mysteries of our time. That’s what I hear… ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/811 "2021-02-23T18:23:54Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Little known fact, tanning salons are actually laboratories run either by govt or nefarious organizations. Is there a superhero whose origin story is a tanning bed gone wrong? Because that could be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/812 "2021-02-23T18:29:04Z")
Teen Hulk was exposed to X-Rays at the dentist. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/813 "2021-02-23T18:36:31Z")
Captain Tan and the Ultraviolet Brigade! ETA:That’s not a real thing… but it _should_ be. ETA2: Sounds more of an origin story for a One Punch Man character. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/814 "2021-02-23T19:05:22Z")
“Everything’s legal in New Jersey.” ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/815 "2021-02-23T19:10:02Z")
“In Jersey, anything’s legal as long as you don’t get caught” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PabG3nJRu3k/maxresdefault.jpg "Tweeter And The Monkey Man") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabG3nJRu3k) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/816 "2021-02-23T19:12:03Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > “Everything’s legal in New Jersey.” "Not exactly… " ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/817 "2021-02-23T19:20:43Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZDRrzvdHoPE/maxresdefault.jpg "Vertigo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDRrzvdHoPE) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/818 "2021-02-23T19:21:53Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > “Everything’s legal in New Jersey.” I see what you did there. 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9… Also, it feels like the first time, Monica got sucked in. As opposed to the beekeeper who kind of passed through (or the second time when Monica forced her way in.) The hex barrier seems kind of sentient? BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/819 "2021-02-23T19:23:10Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. We don’t know yet. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/820 "2021-02-23T19:23:25Z")
He just buzzed off … ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/821 "2021-02-23T19:58:38Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Also, it feels like the first time, Monica got sucked in. As opposed to the beekeeper who kind of passed through (or the second time when Monica forced her way in.) The hex barrier seems kind of sentient? It definitely changed behavior after the done incident - it’s now actively repelling things trying to enter Westview, and not just altering them as they pass through. Although, that might just be how it reacts to Monica. She’s the only person whose tried to re-enter after being specifically ejected. If someone else tries to pass through, it might let them in the same way it did the beekeeper guy. > [@amarinth](#): > > BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. In keeping with the “classic TV theme” (if not necessarily sitcom TV) I wish they’d had a throw away line about finding that guy in a cornfield somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/822 "2021-02-23T20:43:44Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. Honey - I’m Drone! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/823 "2021-02-23T20:52:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@amarinth](#): > > > > BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. > > In keeping with the “classic TV theme” (if not necessarily sitcom TV) I wish they’d had a throw away line about finding that guy in a cornfield somewhere. Or name him “Chuck” after Richie Cunningham’s long forgotten brother. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/824 "2021-02-23T21:16:20Z")
Okay, so what has Agatha done to mess up everything? Was she responsible for Mr. Hart choking on the strawberry in the first episode? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/825 "2021-02-23T21:21:01Z")
I’m pretty much 100% certain the strawberry was Wanda. Agatha might have provoked Mr. Hart’s odd behavior right before he started choking, though. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/826 "2021-02-23T23:10:38Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > BTW, what happened to the beekeeper? I’ve lost track. My guess is that was a Lost-style scene, mostly for effect so we could learn about Wanda’s rewind, and that it won’t have any plot significance. He was played by a longtime Marvel stuntman named Zac Henry, fwiw, which I’m guessing was fun for him. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/827 "2021-02-24T01:07:26Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > You’d rather she’d gotten her powers from an exploding energy weapon, like in the comics? That would at least parallel what happened to Carol and it would be a singular incident that hasn’t also happened hundreds of other randoms. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > She also didn’t just go through it the second time, she was pushed out by Wanda using her powers. This feels like a fussy little detail. If Wanda pushing her out is the defining difference, it still means that Wanda can basically grant anyone powers. That’s lazy writing. > [@amarinth](#): > > Also, it feels like the first time, Monica got sucked in. As opposed to the beekeeper who kind of passed through (or the second time when Monica forced her way in.) The hex barrier seems kind of sentient? Same criticism as above, but I also feel like this could all be chalked up to director’s notes. Basically they portrayed it differently simply to make the scenes interesting, not that they are trying to subtly indicate that the event was of a completely different nature. I’m doubting that there will be much in the way of exposition on it so I suppose we’re just supposed to shut up and swallow whatever retcon they give us. Origin stories are a central part of these movies (and the comics) and Spectrum is really getting the shaft when it comes to her origin story. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/828 "2021-02-24T02:43:35Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > > [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > > > You’d rather she’d gotten her powers from an exploding energy weapon, like in the comics? > > That would at least parallel what happened to Carol and it would be a singular incident _that hasn’t also happened hundreds of other randoms._ This remains to be proven: In the first place, we don’t know that any of the “randoms” (as you put it) actually went through the field, at all, or if it was simply erected over the top of them. And, in the second place, even counting the S.W.O.R.D. agents who were absorbed at the end of Episode 6, Monica’s still the only one to pass through it more than once. There’s no reason in-universe not to believe that multiple passes is the difference between “upset stomach” and “superpowers.” And, in the third place, isn’t Monica’s origin being derivative of Carol’s in the original comics canon bad enough? > [@](#): > > I’m doubting that there will be much in the way of exposition on it so I suppose we’re just supposed to shut up and swallow whatever retcon they give us. Origin stories are a central part of these movies (and the comics) and Spectrum is really getting the shaft when it comes to her origin story. If anything, she got the shaft in her original origin story, This is correcting a mistake, from my point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/829 "2021-02-24T03:13:17Z")
Not only has Monica been through the barrier three times, she also got erased and un-erased as the result of the Infinity War. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094.md?page=42)