# WandaVision on Disney +. Open spoilers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [January 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094 "2021-01-21T14:24:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/850 "2021-02-24T16:56:15Z")

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There’s probably even a “Batman went back in time and killed his own parents” story somewhere in the comic books.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/851 "2021-02-24T17:00:56Z")

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That’d be an interesting story line, bit of a reverse Back to the Future.

Goes back in time. Accidently thwarts the killing of his parents, meaning no more Batman, instead Bruce becomes an irresponsible playboy that dies of drug overdose in his 20’s. Has to arrange his parent’s killing, or do it himself to fix the timeline.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/852 "2021-02-24T17:02:42Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> My complaint is, they only have so much time for the story, and they waste so much telling stuff everybody in the word (I bet even isolated Amazon rain forest dwellers and New Guinea Dani know Superman’s origin story by now) already knows.

Yeah, but that’s only true for a handful of heroes. Most in the MCU, and especially Spectrum, will have origins that relatively few know. And many origin stories need to be updated or completely changed for the times.

I think saying origin stories in general suck because we’ve seen the Superman origin a hundred times misses the point.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/853 "2021-02-24T17:13:52Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Goes back in time. Accidently thwarts the killing of his parents, meaning no more Batman, instead Bruce becomes an irresponsible playboy that dies of drug overdose in his 20’s. Has to arrange his parent’s killing, or do it himself to fix the timeline.

That’s sorta the plotline to [Flashpoint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashpoint_(comics)).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/854 "2021-02-24T17:17:42Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Similarly, when Jane Foster was Thor, using Mjolnir to transform into Thor had the side-effect of removing all poisons and toxins from her body - which included the chemo drugs she was using to fight her cancer. The more time she spent as Thor, the more the cancer advanced.

It was one of my favorite Marvel storylines in recent years. My understanding is that the upcoming MCU film _Thor: Love and Thunder_ will be based on that storyline, including Jane-as-Lady-Thor.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/855 "2021-02-24T18:08:55Z")

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The just announced the name of the next Spider-Man movie, which reportedly is going to lean heavily into the multiverse stuff, potentially with previous Spider-Actors reprising their roles from the other movie franchises. When they announced the title, they included a photo of the white board where they supposedly workshopped the title. It’s clearly a prop, and has a lot of cute jokes in it (“Spider-Man: Work from Home”).

But, also? Lots of random hexagons.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/0/0673e48b72ca636a6df7ce3c2a218285de515992.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/856 "2021-02-24T18:13:16Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> But, also? Lots of random hexagons.

I thought those were supposed to be organic molecules.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/857 "2021-02-24T18:25:55Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Having not read the comic, is her comics origin story particularly lame?

If I’m getting this right, her origin was that she was a cop, participated in the arrest of a random mad scientist who was trying to create an energy weapon, it malfunctioned and exposed her to “multi-dimensional radiation”, which gave her the power to manipulate light and other forms of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum, and the media kind of randomly dubbed her “Captain Marvel”, as “the media” in comics are wont to do. The Random Mad Scientist and his invention of a means to imbue ordinary people with vast powers of energy control were then promptly never mentioned again.

To the extent that the above is an accurate recollection/summation, to me personally it seems even more random and lame than her origin in _WandaVision_.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/858 "2021-02-24T19:07:09Z")

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I’d be OK with never seeing Thomas and Martha getting shot again. I’m glad they didn’t dwell on that in the newest movies and, really, doesn’t practically everyone know about that already?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/859 "2021-02-24T19:30:09Z")

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Sure, but why have organic molecules on there?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/860 "2021-02-24T19:32:48Z")

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It’s been thirty years since organic chemistry, but some of those are definitely carbon rings. I was guessing the molecule diagrams were supposed to represent his web fluid, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/861 "2021-02-24T19:42:23Z")

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Peter Parker is a science nerd, historically anyway.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/862 "2021-02-24T19:42:55Z")

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Specifically, he has a doctorate in biochemistry in the comics.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/863 "2021-02-24T19:51:23Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> There’s also Reality-10011, which is also known as the [Cancerverse](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lovecraft/images/6/64/Cancerverse_%28Marvel_Comics%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20190728215244).

I didn’t know _Funky Winkerbean_ was a Marvel title.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/864 "2021-02-24T20:12:25Z")

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They’re definitely hexoses but are they going to imply some connection with the Wanda and space portal hexagonal themes? Or just like hexagons?

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/865 "2021-02-24T20:35:26Z")

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There’s one hexagon that’s clearly a molecule, one hexagon that’s clearly part of a constellation, and then a bunch of other other hexagons.

My money is on the hexagons being a two-layered visual pun - different hexagons relating to different aspects of the various Spiders-Man of the multiverse, _and_ all of the hexagons reference the hexagonal space portals that we’ve already seen are used for interstellar and possibly interdimensional travel in the MCU.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/866 "2021-02-24T21:22:51Z")

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Heh. They threw a hexagonal neuron in there too!

Yeah they are messin with the hexxin!

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/867 "2021-02-24T22:06:40Z")

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DIdn’t Lex Luthor get cancer at some point, from exposure to kyptonite that he kept on his person for protection from Superman?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/868 "2021-02-24T22:22:29Z")

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He did.

Speaking of superheroes and cancer, I can’t believe it took this long to bring up Deadpool.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wandavision-on-disney-open-spoilers/931094/869 "2021-02-24T22:29:49Z")

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True.

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